jakesbeast

Well ive got a question for all of you out there with the ecoboost and a travel trailer. Question is, do you think this is going to be doable?? i will be getting the firestone airbag helpers #5000 rated and the wdh

My Truck:

2012 F-150 FX4 screw Eco no max tow, no hd payload (unfortunately) but i do have the 3.73 gears


Travel trailer... http://www.rvguide.com/specs/jayco/t...e/284-bhs.html

mbopp

Your trailer specs at 6500# empty, in reality it probably goes 6800# or maybe a tad more. Figure another 1000# for gear and you're looking at 7800# and 900# (ish) of tongue weight.
Do you at least have the standard tow package? How many people are you hauling in the SCREW? What's your yellow payload sticker say? My guess is that you're going to run out of payload capacity in a hurry.
Adding air bags does not change your payload rating, it just masks the real problem.

Welcome to 1/2 ton towing, where you run out of payload before hitting the GCVWR.

My TT is 4700# empty, and with just my wife and I (the kids are gone) my standard payload EB SCAB tows it just fine. I'm running a Reese Dual Cam hitch and Prodigy controller.

jakesbeast

yes i have the tow package and my payload sticker only says 1270 it will be my wife and i along with my 2 year old and new born, so i know we will be pushing the limits, should have bought the 6.7 250 diesel, but i guess live and learn, my next truck will def be a f-250 w/ whatever diesel engine they come up with next as i hope to drive this truck for at least 6-7 years

brulaz

For some reason Ford doesn't list the payloads for different engine options in the 250/350 line like it does with the F150. So you have to count the diesel as an "option" which takes off ~500-600# from the max payload listed in the SuperDuty brochures.

So if you're interested in heavy 5th wheels, a 4x4 SCrew F250 diesel with all the trimmings could end up with a similar payload as F150 ECO with HD payload (~2400#). Opting for the 6.2L V8 gasser would fix that, but if you need that 800 lb-ft of low end diesel torque then what you really want is an F350 with a diesel. The diesel is that heavy (and expensive) an option.

Me, I would do everything possible to keep my trailer down to what a F150 ECO (with "only" 420 lb-ft of low end torque) with HD Payload can handle without going over any of its ratings.

flyingpostman

We are a young family of 4 and we settled on a 25' 4000lb (dry) ultralight w/bunks. The bottom bunk coverts into a small table where the kids can play/draw/eat as they get bigger. The trailer has everything we need, and besides, you spend most of the time outside. My Platinum has the same low payload as yours.

EcoboostKev

That trailer has almost the same #'s as mine. My trailer is a 2012 Outback 292BH. 32' 9" long, 6510lbs dry and 850lb dry hitch weight. Unfortunately without having at least the max tow pkg on your truck you will be over your trucks GVWR. I have the Max tow pkg with 7700lb GVWR, I had my setup weighed at my local Cat Scale and when loaded up with the family of 4, gear in the trailer and just a few things in the bed of the truck it weighed in at 7540lbs with 940lbs of that being the trailers tongue weight. I'm just 160lbs from my trucks GVWR and i think your truck without the max tow or HD payload pkgs has only a 7200lb GVWR. So I'm sorry to say you will be over your trucks ratings.
You should look at the Keystone Passports. They have a ton of different floor plans and they are Super lite weight. Here are two models that are similar to the Jayco model you are interested in. Good luck,
Kevin

Passport- 2650BH
dry weight- 4800lbs
dry hitch weight- 540lbs
length- 29' 4"

Passport-2910BH
dry weight- 5300lbs
dry hitch- 725
length- 32' 10"

http://www.keystonerv.com/passport/#/floorplans

Ecoboost_guy89

I have the Firestone airbags on my truck an I wouldn't do it any other way. Saving your factory suspension is a huge plus with the air bags also, the ride you have withy the airbags is so much nicer than without them. I am a Pipeliner I work all over the country pulling my home right behind me. I have a 31 foot tt weighs 5500 lbs unloaded. I get anywhere from 10.5 to 7.5 mpg. Your mileage depends on the weather you pull in. A windy day is horrible not to mention trailer sway. I believe you can pull the trailer your going for but i myself wouldnt pull any bumper pull bigger than i have. iv pulled my trailer 4000 miles this year all the way from north dakota to texas for one trip i got some experience under my belt when it comes to towing with the ecoboost 3.73 gears. I would recommend a 5th wheel. An yes you can pull a 5th wheel with a short box. Newer trailer come with a Reese resolution hitch already installed making the trailer able to pull with any cab size. I myself am looking into trading for a 5th wheel weighing 8000. The drag of a tt is hard on a truck 5th wheels pull much nicer even tho they are heavier.

tomb1269

Jake a rough number to use in determing if you can pull a particular setup is take the trailer gross weight rating (GVWR) and multiply by 12% this gives you a rough tongue weight to see if it is even in the ballpark. The trailer you refernence has a 9000lb GVWR which would give you at least a 1100 lbs of tongue weight. As your truck has a GVWR of 7200, and most likely a payload sticker of 1520 you'd have only 400lbs left for you the wife, the kids and carseats. Take a look around at some other options if you find something close then get the family in the truck fill it with gas and get it weighted to determine what amount of payload you really have (just remember kids grow so you may want to add a little to the weight ticket)