95&2010

I weighed it,

With out trailer
Front:3680
Rear: 2700

With trailer
Front: 3440
Rear: 3620
Trailer: 4020

So if I can do math my tongue weight is 14.5% of the trailer weight

rigrat2011

well, i've gotta kinda hand it to terminex.

i mean; he only spent $60 for chain hangers, which he can buy a few sets for a few trailers, to get the same effect and he doesn't have to buy the full meal deal for each trailer(which would add up after two trailers). granted, not as high quality of a product, we'll all agree... but still, right?

i mean, what if a guy has a car hauler and a rv trailer. to swap a $2500 setup from one trailer to the other would become pretty stupid after a few times, expecially if you're going from hauling your work trailer, and then takin the rv trailer out with the fam on the weekend. who'd want to constantly swap that thing over?

now keep in mind... i'm not going to argue with you over the quality of the $2500 kit. i've been reading about it all damn day and watched all the youtube vids on their website.

what can i say about it? damn skippy i'd love to have that. but money can quickly play a factor in any setup.

myself, i've got a 2010 screwcab 4x4 f150 w/ 3:55 and a 5.5 box. due to the canopy, i've gotta use a ball hitch setup rather than a fifth wheel.

the trailer i'm looking into, is this one ( http://www.4cstrailersdirect.com/cat...Axle-Carhauler )

so, now you know my truck and the trailer i want to get... here's the rest of the blanks.

the car it needs to haul is not more than 4000lbs, including fluids and stereo(big sub box)
with this trailer, it's a reasonable load and doesnt come close to maxing out the axle ratings. i'm shooting for a lenghth of 18-20feet, with a 2foot dove tail.

why such a big trailer? because i want to be able to keep the trailer, once and if i part ways with the truck, would upgrade to a 3500 or F350.

anyways, clearly i'm looking into different possibilities of sway control. up until your posts, i've been considering the CURT sway systems. mainly because it's light. but again, like the trailer, i don't want to have to upgrade equipment in the future. hence why i've been researching the heck out of this contraption you've shown us.

while the truck does seem a bit on the lighter side of things (7200lbs) non max tow, i only need to haul the car once in a while. if and when i rent the trailer out, i know i don't want my stuff to be beatten on too badly.

so, you think this $2500 is too much for the truck and trailer?

like i said before tho, i know i've got more trailer than truck. eventually i'll have a good combination of both.

brulaz

yep and that's 680# tongue weight, too much for your receiver without a WDH.

You're also lifting 280# off the front axle and putting 920 on your rear axle. A bit much there too.

I ran mine for a while at 600# tongue weight, which lifted ~200# off my front axle, and drivability wasn't that bad. But I wouldn't want to go any higher, like what you've got.

If you moved things around so the tongue weight was 12% on your 4700# trailer, that would be 564#. Might be doable without a WDH but still over and not optimal.

rigrat2011

better to be safe than sorry.

bobo06

I'm curious for those running cargo trailers if your using any kind of sway control?

dougbattaglia

I don't on mine but I tow it with a 3/4 ton suburban (6700lbs) and it's all in town and in and out of alleys and office tower loading zones. Towed it 1200km last summer to the lake and back but no real weight. No issues at all but the truck does out weigh it. The trailer weighs empty (2400lbs) and when loaded (5000lbs). It 7x14 tandem axle, rear ramp and front side door with double 3/4 inch floor on 16 in centers.

smokeywren

Yes. 7x14 CarMate enclosed cargo trailer with 7,000 pounds GVWR. I use a Reese Strait-Line weight-distributing (WD) trunnion bar hitch with built-in dual-cam sway control. Works great. The Strait-Line is about as good as it gets for WD hitches that cost less than $1,000.
http://www.reeseprod.com/content/pro...665&part=66073

Any trailer, regardless of type, requires a WD hitch with sway control if the wet and loaded trailer might weigh more than 5,000 pounds, or have more than 500 pounds hitch weight. In fact, I would lower that to any trailer that might weigh more than 3,500 pounds.

If you've ever had a trailer go into uncontrollable sway condition, then you'd get serious about sway control. Whether TT, horse trailer, utility trailer, boat trailer or cargo trailer, you want to prevent trailer sway with a good WD hitch with sway control.

smokeywren

Good job.

I didn't reply earlier because you got the right answer.

Were the truck and trailer both wet and loaded for the road?

95&2010

Yea minus my 115lb wife