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Old 11-27-2014, 08:16 AM   #1
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I have a 2014 XLT 5.0 with 6.5 bed and tow package.


I want to upgrade my trailer to a Toy Hauler.


The Toy Hauler will be about 7K and will have 2 track motorcycles in it and all our track gear.


Will my 5.0 tow this if I go with the 5th wheel type hitch and good trailer brakes?


If not what Ford do I need to tow this. Not interested in the EB.


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I tow a 7k lbs enclosed v-nose motorcycle toy hauler with my 5.4 and it does it fine. You shouldn't have a problem nor would you need to have a 5th wheel. Mine is bumper pull, tandem axle w/ brakes on each axle.
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Don't worry about the engine. Instead, you should be checking out whether your truck has adequate payload capacity to handle the tongue weight/pin weight. That is almost always the limiting factor.
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You should be fine with a 7k lbs trailer but yes don't forget to check that as well.
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Dozens/hundreds of threads showing you how to figure out your payload capacity, use a WDH, etc. See one example in the my signature.
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I tow a large 3 horse gooseneck horse trailer with mine that is similar in weight to what you are towing. It does great. Check the payload but the scab 5.0 probably will be fine.
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I have a 2014 XLT 5.0 with 6.5 bed and tow package.

Which tow package? The regular tow package doesn't have enough GVWR (payload capacity) to handle the hitch weight of a 7,000-pound tag trailer without exceeding the GVWR of the F-150. And if you can find a fifth-wheel toy hauler with GVWR of only 7,000 pounds, it will have more hitch weight than the tag trailer.


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I want to upgrade my trailer to a Toy Hauler.
If your truck has the maximum tow package (includes tow mirrors and brake controller (ITBC) as well as increased GVWR and payload capacity) then you might be able to keep the weight out of the tow vehicle enough to tow a 7,000-pound tag trailer without exceeding the GVWR of the F-150. And realize you'll probably be right up against the payload capacity of your truck with nothing in the truck but a skinny driver, a skinny passenger, and the hitch weight of the trailer.

But forget about a 5er or gooseneck trailer unless your F-150 also has the HD Payload package, which includes 17" 7-lug wheels.

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Will my 5.0 tow this if I go with the 5th wheel type hitch and good trailer brakes?
No, not a 5er, and not even a tag trailer without being overloaded unless you have at least the max tow pkg. (A 5er will have average hitch weight of 18% of trailer weight, while a tag trailer will have average hitch weight of 13%. That 5% difference is a back breaker.

Your 5.0L will probably pull the 7,000 pounds okay, because your GCWR is high enough to tow a 7,000 pound trailer without overheating anything in the drivetrain and without being the slowpoke holding up traffic on hills and passes.

The problem with your pickup is the amount of weight you can haul including hitch weight, without exceeding the GVWR of your pickup.


Some folks will tell you to ignore the GVWR and payload capacity of your truck. They think it's okay to run overloaded. I suspect those folks are missing a few brain cells.

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If not what Ford do I need to tow this. Not interested in the EB.
Any F-250 will work fine for a trailer with GVWR up to around 10,000 pounds. Or if you can afford a new pickup and prefer the F-150, then order a new 2015 F-150 with the HD Payload package. For 2015 model year, the F-150 HD Payload package has ordinary 18" tires and normal 6-lug wheel. And it has LT tires instead of the P-Series tires of ordinary F-150s. And I'm pretty sure you can order a 2015 F-150 with the 5.0L V8 engine as well as with the HD Payload pkg.


Too bad you are leery of the EcoBoost engine. I love mine that now has 45,000 miles on it.
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Smokey the toy haulers like my gn horse trailer tend to often have less pin weight than a traditional 5ver. My payload is over 1800 and does fine without being over. Most of the weight sits on or behind the axles and with a low 7k gvwr on the trailer I bet he will be under 1200 pin weight. With an scab he will be over 1600 payload probably
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