2015 max tow major sway
10-09-2015, 07:39 AM
#21
Senior Member
I'd be interested in the reasoning in this. As mentioned by another poster, I have read many threads from users complaining about the same thing. Bad sway and poor stability with the new F150s. On the Ram forums there are quite a few over there looking at jumping ship due to the issues. I can say they will sure miss the payload of the F150 if they move...
Anyways, I hope this is something they resolve soon as the F150 is a very popular tow vehicle in the half ton segment. With the HD Titan coming soon it is in Fords best interest to get this common issue resolved.
Anyways, I hope this is something they resolve soon as the F150 is a very popular tow vehicle in the half ton segment. With the HD Titan coming soon it is in Fords best interest to get this common issue resolved.
Any longer wheelbase truck tows better with less sway than a shorter wheelbase truck, but that's just geometry and has nothing to do with the 2015 F150s specifically.
The typical weight difference between the 2015s and 2011-2014 trucks is only a few hundred pounds. Not enough to cause a big difference.
And heavier duty trucks will always tow better and have less sway than "grocery-getter" half-tons because of their stiffer suspension and stiffer LT tires. I've put a lot of $$ into my 2011's suspension for just this reason.
If you are close to or over your weight limits (as the O.P. definitely is), you really should stiffen the suspension and switch tires if the soft suspension bothers you.
But I do think something else is going on. I've never heard of a rig so bad that the truck's anti-sway sensor kicks in repeatedly. And the pulling to one side which he said happened with his earlier truck as well?
And over on RV.NET, it's well known that the Andersen WDH cannot handle high tongue weights very well.
Last edited by brulaz; 10-09-2015 at 07:42 AM.
10-09-2015, 10:27 PM
#22
Senior Member
I had trouble with a slight wiggle side to side when towing. I walked past my 7x12 trailer and noticed that the tire looked a bit worn in one spot. Taking a closer look I could see a slight wave to the tire from a broken belt. I've looked at the tires over the last year and never noticed an issue. Maybe a bad trailer tire could be causing part of the issue.
10-10-2015, 10:20 PM
#23
I pull a 37 foot keystone premeir with zero sway on my 05 150 I'll have to try the 15 when it gets more miles but my 05 came with load range c tires may make all the difference in the word
10-15-2015, 11:30 PM
#24
Update. Ford closed my case before they even knew about the results of my test drives. They said I had to work with the dealer and they were not looking to do anything without Fords help. Consulted a lawyer and he wanted to know how I was going to pay attorney fees if we won and Ford bought the truck back so he won't take it unless I have 4k. Thought I would try the equalizer hitch again since I have not tried it after the roadmaster kit was installed and I was surprised at how different it was towing. Still swaying a bit and only took it for 20 mi on a very windy day but hard to tell. However, after about 20 min the dang warnings came up again. Hill decent control fault and service advance trac. Once they came up it was back to horrible again. I was so frustrated I went to the dealer and had them drive with me. It went ok for 20 min then the warnings came up. They said they are going to reopen the case and try to get an engineer out to review. I hope it works, I just want this to work out and I am exhausted with the fight
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10-16-2015, 07:22 AM
#26
Senior Member
I suspect the WD on your hitch is not setup correctly. I really feel for this problem you're having, definitely sounds frustrating, but you have a wealth of knowledge available on this forum to help you yet you still have not provided requested data that will confirm your payload and weight distribution setup is accurate. Help us help you here...
Post your door stickers which includes your GVWR, Front & Rear GAWR, GCWR, and most importantly your payload. Also provide a copy/pic of your truck scale ticket showing the scaled weights for front & rear axles of the tow vehicle and axles of the trailer (x3 weight figures). Armed with that info, some quick calculations will reveal how your towing configuration is setup.
If you really want to know once and for all hit the scale x3 times, once with just the truck setup as you tow (gas, cargo, etc.), then hit the scales with the trailer - once without WD setup and once with WD snapped up and in place. This may cost you $25 bucks in scale tickets but will clearly provide all the data you need to pinpoint any weight issues (also may help prove or disprove the legality of your claim with Ford or the dealer).
I wrote a simple tool where you can plug this data in and it will quickly calculate and pinpoint areas of overweight or out of standards with your setup. All you need is the data:
https://www.f150forum.com/f82/traile...tility-244126/
Post your door stickers which includes your GVWR, Front & Rear GAWR, GCWR, and most importantly your payload. Also provide a copy/pic of your truck scale ticket showing the scaled weights for front & rear axles of the tow vehicle and axles of the trailer (x3 weight figures). Armed with that info, some quick calculations will reveal how your towing configuration is setup.
If you really want to know once and for all hit the scale x3 times, once with just the truck setup as you tow (gas, cargo, etc.), then hit the scales with the trailer - once without WD setup and once with WD snapped up and in place. This may cost you $25 bucks in scale tickets but will clearly provide all the data you need to pinpoint any weight issues (also may help prove or disprove the legality of your claim with Ford or the dealer).
I wrote a simple tool where you can plug this data in and it will quickly calculate and pinpoint areas of overweight or out of standards with your setup. All you need is the data:
https://www.f150forum.com/f82/traile...tility-244126/
10-16-2015, 07:34 AM
#27
Senior Member
Given that the warnings came up with the dealer personnel in your truck, you should find that Ford will now work with the dealer to solve your problem.
10-16-2015, 08:11 AM
#28
Senior Member
I suspect the WD on your hitch is not setup correctly. I really feel for this problem you're having, definitely sounds frustrating, but you have a wealth of knowledge available on this forum to help you yet you still have not provided requested data that will confirm your payload and weight distribution setup is accurate. Help us help you here...
Post your door stickers which includes your GVWR, Front & Rear GAWR, GCWR, and most importantly your payload. Also provide a copy/pic of your truck scale ticket showing the scaled weights for front & rear axles of the tow vehicle and axles of the trailer (x3 weight figures). Armed with that info, some quick calculations will reveal how your towing configuration is setup.
If you really want to know once and for all hit the scale x3 times, once with just the truck setup as you tow (gas, cargo, etc.), then hit the scales with the trailer - once without WD setup and once with WD snapped up and in place. This may cost you $25 bucks in scale tickets but will clearly provide all the data you need to pinpoint any weight issues (also may help prove or disprove the legality of your claim with Ford or the dealer).
I wrote a simple tool where you can plug this data in and it will quickly calculate and pinpoint areas of overweight or out of standards with your setup. All you need is the data:
https://www.f150forum.com/f82/traile...tility-244126/
Post your door stickers which includes your GVWR, Front & Rear GAWR, GCWR, and most importantly your payload. Also provide a copy/pic of your truck scale ticket showing the scaled weights for front & rear axles of the tow vehicle and axles of the trailer (x3 weight figures). Armed with that info, some quick calculations will reveal how your towing configuration is setup.
If you really want to know once and for all hit the scale x3 times, once with just the truck setup as you tow (gas, cargo, etc.), then hit the scales with the trailer - once without WD setup and once with WD snapped up and in place. This may cost you $25 bucks in scale tickets but will clearly provide all the data you need to pinpoint any weight issues (also may help prove or disprove the legality of your claim with Ford or the dealer).
I wrote a simple tool where you can plug this data in and it will quickly calculate and pinpoint areas of overweight or out of standards with your setup. All you need is the data:
https://www.f150forum.com/f82/traile...tility-244126/
10-16-2015, 08:28 AM
#29
Senior Member
That does sound like a truck issue. Those are not the warnings that you get with the truck's built-in anti-sway control though. Something else is wrong, and it looks like it's a really weird problem with the truck. Obviously it shouldn't be doing this just when hitched up to a trailer. 
Depending upon how it's set up, the Equal-I-Zer could be returning much more weight to your front axle than the Andersen WDH. Could that be somehow be causing those sensor faults? Just a wild guess ...
I do wish you luck. It's a weird problem, and as it only happens with a trailer attached, there's a lot of opportunity for folks to "pass the buck". You're lucky a technician actually saw it happen. Just hope they can fix it.
Depending upon how it's set up, the Equal-I-Zer could be returning much more weight to your front axle than the Andersen WDH. Could that be somehow be causing those sensor faults? Just a wild guess ...
I do wish you luck. It's a weird problem, and as it only happens with a trailer attached, there's a lot of opportunity for folks to "pass the buck". You're lucky a technician actually saw it happen. Just hope they can fix it.
10-16-2015, 09:26 AM
#30
I suspect the WD on your hitch is not setup correctly. I really feel for this problem you're having, definitely sounds frustrating, but you have a wealth of knowledge available on this forum to help you yet you still have not provided requested data that will confirm your payload and weight distribution setup is accurate. Help us help you here...
Post your door stickers which includes your GVWR, Front & Rear GAWR, GCWR, and most importantly your payload. Also provide a copy/pic of your truck scale ticket showing the scaled weights for front & rear axles of the tow vehicle and axles of the trailer (x3 weight figures). Armed with that info, some quick calculations will reveal how your towing configuration is setup.
If you really want to know once and for all hit the scale x3 times, once with just the truck setup as you tow (gas, cargo, etc.), then hit the scales with the trailer - once without WD setup and once with WD snapped up and in place. This may cost you $25 bucks in scale tickets but will clearly provide all the data you need to pinpoint any weight issues (also may help prove or disprove the legality of your claim with Ford or the dealer).
I wrote a simple tool where you can plug this data in and it will quickly calculate and pinpoint areas of overweight or out of standards with your setup. All you need is the data:
https://www.f150forum.com/f82/traile...tility-244126/
Post your door stickers which includes your GVWR, Front & Rear GAWR, GCWR, and most importantly your payload. Also provide a copy/pic of your truck scale ticket showing the scaled weights for front & rear axles of the tow vehicle and axles of the trailer (x3 weight figures). Armed with that info, some quick calculations will reveal how your towing configuration is setup.
If you really want to know once and for all hit the scale x3 times, once with just the truck setup as you tow (gas, cargo, etc.), then hit the scales with the trailer - once without WD setup and once with WD snapped up and in place. This may cost you $25 bucks in scale tickets but will clearly provide all the data you need to pinpoint any weight issues (also may help prove or disprove the legality of your claim with Ford or the dealer).
I wrote a simple tool where you can plug this data in and it will quickly calculate and pinpoint areas of overweight or out of standards with your setup. All you need is the data:
https://www.f150forum.com/f82/traile...tility-244126/