smokeywren

Lariat trim not available with regular cab.

8' bed not available with SuperCrew cab.


So the only F-150 that fits your description is the SuperCab

To build and price a SuperCab 4X4 Lariat with 8' bed and max payload, begin with F-150, then Lariat, then SuperCab, then 8' bed, then 5.0L V8 or 3.5L EcoBoost engine. Then go to packagers and choose HD Payload pkg. That will automatically add max tow pkg, integrated trailer brake controller, 3.73 E-Locker axle. It will also include LT 275/65R18C tires on 18" alloy wheels.

If you choose any combo other than Supercab with 8' bed and 5.0L or EcoBoost engine, then Ford will not give you the option to add HD Payload pkg.

2015 Build&Price will not automatically add tow mirrors, so be sure you add that option. It will not automatically add the extended range gas tank (33 gallons instead of 26), so be sure you add that.

I don't know how to get build&price to show you the payload capacity after you have added the HD Payload pkg, but you get close by simple math. The GVWR is 7,850. Subtract the weight of the truck and the answer is max payload capacity. You can get close to the weight of the truck by subtracting the tow rating from the GCWR. 17,100 minus 11,100 = 6,000 pounds truck weight, including 150-pound driver.

So GVWR of 7,850 minus 6,000 pounds for truck and driver = 1,850 max payload rating. Or 2,000 pounds payload capacity before the skinny driver crawls in.

It does. Have you figured out a way to get 7,850 GVWR without the HD Payload pkg?

Regalflyer

Where is the GVWR info found? I had tried the math with an Expedition, but the yellow payload sticker was down around 1400 lbs, and numbers did not indicate payload that low.

Wow, 1800 is way less than I thought it would be.
Thanks

KR Kodi

iTrader: (1)

Are you talking about your truck, or a truck on a dealer's lot??

If so, just look on the Safety Compliance Certification Label - which is usually just above the yellow tire info sticker with the payload capacity on it. You can see one below.

If you're talking about getting it from a sales brochure, there will be a bunch of different GVWRs listed for various tow pkgs, HD pkgs, bed lengths, rear ends, etc.

smokeywren

Since your truck will have the HD Payload pkg, you can find the GVWR in the Ford RV and Trailer Towing Guide on the chart about hauling a camper. (Maximum Cargo Weight with Slide-in Camper). For 2015 models, it's on page 10. Note 1 applies to all F-150s and states "requires Heavy-Duty Payload Package option". That chart shows that GVWR for all 2015 F-150 4x4s with the HD Payload pkg is 7,850.

Regalflyer

Trying to order with the best payload I can get. I want to tow a trailer with 7050 dry weight, 720 tongue weight ( no water or propane, or gear). When I looked at stickers on the dealer lot, the yellow safety sticker is always much lower than what is indicated by the GVWR- vehicle weight?

If I can only get to 1850 payload with the HD option etc, I might be pushed into a bigger truck.
Thanks

smokeywren

Then you are probably using an invalid vehicle weight. The yellow sticker with payload capacity uses the actual weight of that truck with the options installed on that truck. Many options are heavy, and the published curb weight assumes a base truck with no options. So you have to weigh the truck on a CAT scale, then subtract the actual weight from the GVWR to get close to the payload rating on the yellow sticker.


And you haven't seen the yellow sticker for any 2015s yet, have you? There are none in captivity around here yet.

Regalflyer

No, have not seen a 2015. I started by looking at Expeditions on the lot, the 2015s with the Ecoboost are out there now.

Page 10 in the towing guide indicates 3 different payloads for the long wheelbase 4x4 Scab, 1,530lb, 1,992lb, but also 1,762lb. If I can get to 1,992lbs I think that would suffice.

From the chart, if I order HD payload and 18" wheels it should get me there?
Thanks all, dealers don't know their own vehicles yet-

KR Kodi

iTrader: (1)

Like Smokeywren said, that 1992 will be the lowest trim level with NO options - that's zero, zilch, nada, zip for options.

There are VERY few trucks built with no options at all, and the weight of every option reduces payload capacity.

I guess you can order a truck without any options, but you probably won't find one in any dealer's inventory.
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smokeywren

Stop and regroup. Those numbers in the camper chart are not payloads. Those are max camper weight, assuming a 150-pound passenger in each available seat. How many seats (seatbelts) for passengers are available in a SuperCab? At least 3, so that's at least another 450 pounds you can add to the available payload sticker. 1992 plus 450 = 2442 max payload capacity. Subtract about 342 for the weight of the trim and upgrades in a loaded Lariat and that leaves about 2,100 payload capacity with just the driver in the cab.

The 1530 is with 17" tires. So don't order 17" tires. I don't see a difference between the specs for the 1,992 and the 1,762 camper weight, so you'll have to ask Ford Customer Service to explain that one.

I would expect a yellow sticker payload number over 2,000 pounds if you lay off the heavy options such as running boards and spray-in bedliner. Order an XLT instead of Lariat and you'll have even more payload capacity.

Also consider ordering XL trim, then adding options of cloth seats, cruise control, and the power everything to build a nice truck with maximum payload capacity.

But do NOT rely on estimates and guesswork. Make your dealerperson earn their commission. Have your dealerperson "build" the truck you want to order in the Ford vehicle order system, then ask the dealerperson to determine the payload capacity that will be on the yellow sticker of that truck before you give him the deposit for the order.

And yes, you'll probably have to order the truck, then wait 6 to 8 weeks for it to show up. Before the 2015 model year, dealers did not order F-150s with the HD Payload package for inventory. Too many customers didn't want the weird 7-lug wheels that were part of that pkg. Maybe that will change with the 2015s because ordinary 18" 6-lug wheels are now available with the HD Payload pkg.

My daughter near Knoxville wanted an F-150 HD SuperCab last year, and there none in stock at any dealer east of the Mississippi. So she bought an F-250 6.2L SuperCab shorty off the lot. There were plenty of those available. She lovers her F-250 SuperCab shorty, BTW. My granddaughter is a barrel racer, so they drag a 2-horse trailer all over eastern Tennessee attending rodeos and barrel races.

Regalflyer

Many thanks Smokeywren, it sounds like the payload might be very decent for my application. The dealers just don't get asked these questions very often and seem fairly unprepared to answer quickly, but I will get them working for some real world specs! I am so interested in the F150 Ecoboost because it gets great mileage with gasoline and can still climb a grade at altitude like a diesel. The 2015 will replace 2 vehicles, my van for hauling 8 foot long giant scale RC aircraft, and my pickup that I was using for the TT. Very attractive solution if it works out, otherwise I need to buy a new HD truck that just sits around until ready for a trip with the TT.
Daughter also rides English jumpers😄