2013 F150 Platinum Ecoboost towing 2014 Cherokee Grey Wolf 19RR Toy Hauler
#1
2013 F150 Platinum Ecoboost towing 2014 Cherokee Grey Wolf 19RR Toy Hauler
I just went to the CAT Scale with my new 2013 F150 Platinum Ecoboost with Max Tow Package (full tank of gas), 2014 Cherokee Grey Wolf 19RR Toy Hauler Fully packed which includes the following:
2009 Yamaha R1 (with a full tank of gas)
2011 Can-Am Spyder (with a full tank of gas)
Fresh water tank (50 gals I think) filled to the max
Food
Fridge loaded up with soda, hot dogs and other stuff
Motorcycle gear for both me and my wife
Camping chairs
and an EZ-Up canopy
These are the numbers of the CAT Scale:
Weight 1 (just the truck and the Equalizer hitch only, no trailer attached):
Steer Axle (Front): 3,560 lbs.
Drive Axle (Rear): 2,760 lbs.
Trailer Axle: 0
Gross Weight: 6,320 lbs.
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Weight 2 (Truck and 19RR Wet with the WDH "Bars, NOT" attached):
Steer Axle (Front): 3,240 lbs.
Drive Axle (Rear): 3,860 lbs.
Trailer Axle: 5,520 lbs.
Gross Weight: 12,620 lbs.
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Weight 3 (Truck and 19RR Wet with the WDH Bars Attached):
Steer Axle (Front): 3,440 lbs.
Drive Axle (Rear): 3,540 lbs.
Trailer Axle: 5,680 lbs.
Gross Weight: 12,660 lbs.
* I also weighted the 19RR (wet) with my new Tongue scale and it shows between 800-850 lbs.
** When the WDH is all attached, the truck and 19RR look level and the tape measure shows that the rear of the truck is about 1/8" higher than the front and the same goes for the 19RR, the rear sits about 1/8" higher than the front of the 19RR.
What is everyone’s view on these numbers?
Thanks
2009 Yamaha R1 (with a full tank of gas)
2011 Can-Am Spyder (with a full tank of gas)
Fresh water tank (50 gals I think) filled to the max
Food
Fridge loaded up with soda, hot dogs and other stuff
Motorcycle gear for both me and my wife
Camping chairs
and an EZ-Up canopy
These are the numbers of the CAT Scale:
Weight 1 (just the truck and the Equalizer hitch only, no trailer attached):
Steer Axle (Front): 3,560 lbs.
Drive Axle (Rear): 2,760 lbs.
Trailer Axle: 0
Gross Weight: 6,320 lbs.
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Weight 2 (Truck and 19RR Wet with the WDH "Bars, NOT" attached):
Steer Axle (Front): 3,240 lbs.
Drive Axle (Rear): 3,860 lbs.
Trailer Axle: 5,520 lbs.
Gross Weight: 12,620 lbs.
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Weight 3 (Truck and 19RR Wet with the WDH Bars Attached):
Steer Axle (Front): 3,440 lbs.
Drive Axle (Rear): 3,540 lbs.
Trailer Axle: 5,680 lbs.
Gross Weight: 12,660 lbs.
* I also weighted the 19RR (wet) with my new Tongue scale and it shows between 800-850 lbs.
** When the WDH is all attached, the truck and 19RR look level and the tape measure shows that the rear of the truck is about 1/8" higher than the front and the same goes for the 19RR, the rear sits about 1/8" higher than the front of the 19RR.
What is everyone’s view on these numbers?
Thanks
Last edited by OmegaQuest; 07-04-2013 at 08:45 PM.
#3
Grumpy Old Man
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Weight 1 (just the truck and the Equalizer hitch only, no trailer attached):
Steer Axle (Front): 3,560 lbs.
Drive Axle (Rear): 2,760 lbs.
Trailer Axle: 0
Gross Weight: 6,320 lbs.
----------------
Weight 2 (Truck and 19RR Wet with the WDH "Bars, NOT" attached):
Steer Axle (Front): 3,240 lbs.
Drive Axle (Rear): 3,860 lbs.
Trailer Axle: 5,520 lbs.
Gross Weight: 12,620 lbs.
----------------
Weight 1 (just the truck and the Equalizer hitch only, no trailer attached):
Steer Axle (Front): 3,560 lbs.
Drive Axle (Rear): 2,760 lbs.
Trailer Axle: 0
Gross Weight: 6,320 lbs.
----------------
Weight 2 (Truck and 19RR Wet with the WDH "Bars, NOT" attached):
Steer Axle (Front): 3,240 lbs.
Drive Axle (Rear): 3,860 lbs.
Trailer Axle: 5,520 lbs.
Gross Weight: 12,620 lbs.
----------------
Weight 3 (Truck and 19RR Wet with the WDH Bars Attached):
Steer Axle (Front): 3,440 lbs.
Drive Axle (Rear): 3,540 lbs.
Trailer Axle: 5,680 lbs.
Gross Weight: 12,660 lbs.
Drive Axle (Rear): 3,540 lbs.
Trailer Axle: 5,680 lbs.
Gross Weight: 12,660 lbs.
160 pounds distributed from the rear axle to the trailer axles = 20.5% of hitch weight = good but a bit less than the 25% goal. Maybe some fine-tuning of the hitch head could get it closer to 25%.
3440 + 3540 = 6980, or plenty of slop before you run out of GVWR.
What is everyone’s view on these numbers?
Now your next problem is convincing DW that she cannot haul home a big load of pretty rocks she found that are just begging to join her landscape.
Last edited by smokeywren; 07-04-2013 at 08:03 PM.
#4
The only thing I forgot to put in the "Bed" of the truck for these weighs was 2 portable generators (each 50lbs) and 2 x 5 gal gas cans filled with fuel for the generators and motorcycles and 105 lbs wife in the passenger seat (she was out shopping....).
#6
2011 Harley Davidson AWD
Out of curiosity, which numbers would you use to calculate the truck's GVW to compare it to the GVWR? Weight 2 or 3?
Weight 2: 3240 + 3860 = 7100 (550# under GVWR)
Weight 3: 3440 + 3540 = 6980 (670# under GVWR)
Those of us with smaller payload capacities would like to know!
Weight 2: 3240 + 3860 = 7100 (550# under GVWR)
Weight 3: 3440 + 3540 = 6980 (670# under GVWR)
Those of us with smaller payload capacities would like to know!
#7
Out of curiosity, which numbers would you use to calculate the truck's GVW to compare it to the GVWR? Weight 2 or 3?
Weight 2: 3240 + 3860 = 7100 (550# under GVWR)
Weight 3: 3440 + 3540 = 6980 (670# under GVWR)
Those of us with smaller payload capacities would like to know!
Weight 2: 3240 + 3860 = 7100 (550# under GVWR)
Weight 3: 3440 + 3540 = 6980 (670# under GVWR)
Those of us with smaller payload capacities would like to know!
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#9
Senior Member
Looks like just the right size trailer. Nice set up.
#10
Grumpy Old Man
The hitch weight is correct, but the way to get there omitted a coupla of steps. I'm surprised nobody called me on the carpet for that.
3240 + 3860 = 7100 = the GVW on the 4 tires of the tow vehicle when the trailer is tied on but the WD bars not attached.
6320 = the GVW on the 4 tires of the tow vehicle without the trailer tied on.
7100 minus 6320 = 780 hitch weight.
3240 + 3860 = 7100 = the GVW on the 4 tires of the tow vehicle when the trailer is tied on but the WD bars not attached.
6320 = the GVW on the 4 tires of the tow vehicle without the trailer tied on.
7100 minus 6320 = 780 hitch weight.