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Old 02-04-2014, 09:50 AM   #11
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I was looking at some plug-in monitors and came across the edge insight. Anyone have any experience with these? Also, for $100 more, the edge evolution provides the gauges the insight has plus the ability to "tune" the truck's computer, with a towing mode that "makes the shifts firmer which reduces wear on the transmission" (from their website). Any thoughts?
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I keep check on the tranny temp gauge in the dash, but it sounds like I need to get one that plugs into the obd II module to be more accurate.
I'm not positive about the F-150 tranny, but on a SuperDuty tranny the tranny temp shown by the OBD-II port is about 15 hotter than sump temp. So it's accurate, but the rules change slightly when you read that temp. Instead of 225 red line for sump temp, the red line is about 240 if you take the temp from the OBD-II port.

The difference is where the sender is located. If the sender gives sump temp, then the red line is 225. But if the sender is in the valve body of the tranny, the red line increases to about 240.

You can still use 225 as your red line, but you might be stopping when there's no real need to stop.
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Tuning your truck is quite different from just monitoring the stock performance. I run a modified 87perf/tow tune from 5 star that I program with an SCT unit. I only have that connected while up loading the tune, then reconnect my Scangauge II and monitor the function of the truck through that on a day-to-day basis.

There are two different categories of tunes. Ones that come pre-loaded on the tuners (edge, SCT, superchips, hypertech, bully dog, etc) and specific tunes written for your truck by tuning specialty companies(5 star, MPT and livernois for example).

While the pre-loaded ones work out for some people, they don't for others and cause drivability issues. Having a custom tune written for exactly your truck with its modifications or lack thereof is useful and can be catered to how you want the truck to run. The original 87perf/tow tune that I got from 5star had a tendency to shift too high in rpm range for my driving style. I asked for them to be lowered and within a few minutes had the tune I have been running for the last 5 months. I couldn't be happier with the performance.

Your 5.4 and 6 speed (same as mine) worked OK as programmed by ford, but works a lot better (in my opinion) with a custom tune. The transmission shifts much better in my case and that's only on the 87 tune. I have only tried the 87 economy tune and the current 87 perf/tow tune, but also have a 89 perf and 91 perf tune that i will probably never use.

I paid $170 for the scangauge that allows me to add "xgauge" info for information specific to my truck, which is useful. The SCT programmer and 5 custom tunes from 5Star was $400 or so. money well spent in my opinion. Edge, SCT and others make units with a display that do both functions, but cost about the same as the units separately.

Be aware that 2009 and 2010 trucks use different Engine Control Modules and Transmission Control Modules than the 2011 and up trucks (they are two separate units as opposed to the integrated unit on the 2011+ trucks so make sure you specify this in your purchase. It took almost 1.5hours to program my truck (save the stock programs and upload the new ECM and TCM tunes) the first time out and you need to make sure your battery is in good condition during the program.

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I was looking at some plug-in monitors and came across the edge insight. Anyone have any experience with these? Also, for $100 more, the edge evolution provides the gauges the insight has plus the ability to "tune" the truck's computer, with a towing mode that "makes the shifts firmer which reduces wear on the transmission" (from their website). Any thoughts?
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A Tow package came with my 2010 F150 4.6 L V8 Triton. I don't have the expandable mirrors so does that mean I just have the regular Tow package and not the Max Tow? How do I tell?

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preety sure 4.6 woodnt get max tow
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A Tow package came with my 2010 F150 4.6 L V8 Triton. I don't have the expandable mirrors so does that mean I just have the regular Tow package and not the Max Tow? How do I tell?
2010 F-150 Order guide for MAX TRAILER TOW PACKAGE required 5.4l engine and optional trailer tow mirrors, along with other requirements:

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MAX TRAILER TOW PACKAGE (53M)

Availability:

... Optional on XL Regular and SuperCab, XLT, FX4 and Lariat

Not Available with:
... FX2 Sport Package (86S)

Requires:

... 5.4L engine and auto transmission
... 3.73 LS rear axle ratio(XLT and Lariat)
... 3.73 electronic locking differential axle (FX4)
... XL requires 627 Heavy Duty Payload Package
... XLT Regular Cab requires 627 Heavy Duty Payload Package
... XLT SuperCab requires 627 Heavy Duty Payload Package or 145" Wheelbase
... Side Mirrors, Manual Telescoping Trailer Tow w/Manual Glass – on XL without power equipment pkg
... Side Mirrors, Manual Telescoping Trailer Tow w/Power Glass – 54P (includes heat, turn signal & puddle lamps and self-dimming rearview mirror) (XL with Power Equip. Grp, XLT, FX4 less FX4 Luxury Pkg)
... Side Mirrors, Manual Telescoping Trailer Tow w/Power Glass – 54R (includes heat, memory, turn signal & puddle lamps) & Body Color Skull Caps (FX4 with FX4 Luxury Pkg. and Lariat less Lariat Chrome Pkg.)
... Side Mirrors, Manual Telescoping Trailer Tow w/Power Glass – 54X (includes heat, memory, turn signal & puddle lamps) & Chrome Skull Caps (Lariat Chrome Pkg., King Ranch and Platinum)
... Fog Lamps (595) on XLT

Includes:

Regular trailer tow pkg, plus:
... Upgraded rear bumper
... Trailer Brake Controller

The regular tow pkg included
Class IV trailer hitch receiver

7-pin wiring harness

Upgraded radiator

Auxiliary transmission oil cooler
Note that King Ranch, Platinum and Harley Davidson were all packages available on SuperCrew Lariats. So when the order guide requires Lariat trim, that includes the King Ranch and Platinum packages as well as Lariats.
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Hey Smokeywren, thanks for the info. I must have the regular tow package then.
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If anyone is interested,you can look at the brochure for your f150 online. I just googled 2010 f150 brochure and found the pdf file of the brochure for that year. It tells what's in various packages. I read the fine print on the power ratings for the 5.4 flex fuel engine & it states that the 320 hp & 390 lb-ft are only when using E85. Anyone know what the ratings are for regular unleaded? I know it's less but by how much?
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