old_programmer

The HDPP doesn't apply but the 2.7L does have a payload package which increases the published maximum payload up by around 300 lbs and published max tow up to 7900 lbs (based on 2015 towing guide for 4X4 2.7L Screw). When shopping I never saw the 2.7L payload pkg on any lot and suspect you would have to special order to get it. 1850 lbs does sound high for a 4X4 Screw even with the payload pkg. My 4X2 Scab with the 302A pkg and 36 gallon tank has a max payload of 1541 which I expect is typical for vehicles with the similar equipment.

Gene K

It only adds 400-500 lb GVWR but we will call it EBPP. It's includes the 9.75HD 3.73 Elocker and 3850 lb springs.

A Crew Cab 145 4x4 2.7 EBPP with 36 gal tank and the same options as my truck except without FX4 would weigh 4969 lb according to Ford's Payload Book. I think a 301A would add less than 30 lb over a 101A. Basically the only difference between 101A and 300A is the weight of carpet and floor mats and 301A isn't that much heavier. Wheels, tires, skid plates, steps, moon roofs, 9.75 axle and 36 gal tank are the big weight gainers.

PS a Crew Cab version of the truck in my signature weighs 4836 lb.

tsigwing

I know. I have it.

acdii

When I was shopping I found an XLT Screw 5.0 302a that had a 1900 pound payload.

http://www.harvardfordofharvard.com/...archDepth=1:10

Nice driving truck, but XLT seats are uncomfortable for me, or I might have bought it.

Gene K

...and that's with 20's, FX4 and 36 gal Tank. The FX4 and 20's add about 64-75 lb depending on the exact wheel.

acdii

Irony of it is, the payload was 100# under the F250 I drove earlier.

Gene K

Was it a Diesel maybe even with the "Down Rated" GVWR 9900 lb Payload Package? (Some states have a big tag increase at 10000 GVWR)?

The 11500 GVWR F350 SRW is pretty much mandatory on Diesels. My F250 SD would of had it if I could have found it even though I was buying a 6.2 Gas Burner.

The EBPP was pretty common around here. As a matter of fact first 2.7EB I drove was a Scab 301A 4x2 and it had it.

I didn't really need a 2100 lb payload (Have a SD and bigger trucks for that) so I went with FX4 and 3.55 instead of a truck just like mine with EBPP and no FX4.

What was rare here was 36.0 gal tank on 2.7EB.

Magnetic157

Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse here, but even with the HDPP - what good is having a 2500+ lb payload if your hitch is rated the same as the non HDPP with a 1200lb max limit?

You can add more stuff into the truck, but it doesn't allow you to pull a heavier trailer? My payload is 1865 and I can pull the same trailer as the HDPP trucks as we are both limited by the 1200 hitch rating. Isn't this correct?

I looked at my Dads 7.2 turbo diesel Excursion (which I believe is on a SD frame) and it also has a 1200 lb hitch rating too. How are HDPP 150s or 250s pulling heavier trailers when they are all limited to the same hitch ratings?

By this logic, his SD PS diesel can't legally tow anymore then my max tow 3.5 EB 150.

old_programmer

A 5th wheel will have a pin weight that goes over 1200 lbs but yes the hitch weights can be a limiting value.

acdii

Towing capacity, and hitch weights and payload are all different things. You can tow the max if its 4 on the floor and a draw bar. No hitch weight, but payload limits your hitch weight with WDH, In most cases you will not be pulling a trailer with a heavier than the match hitch weight tongue with an F150, if you are, then you need your head examined.

I always see a 1/2 ton pickup towing two or three tankers of Ammonia to the fields, pretty sure the weight of those comes close to 10,000#, but there is no tongue weight on them.

On average though, most trailers that you would tow with a 1/2 ton pickup have less than 1000# tongue weight, at least those trailers that a person with common sense would tow with a 1/2 ton truck. Anything that has a heavier TW is usually also longer than 30' and for those you should be pulling with a 3/4 or 1 ton, not a 1/2 ton.