2011 Blue Flame Metallic FX4 Build - BC119
#11
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Quick update for anyone interested:
Truck is going in tomorrow morning for BDS 4 inch lift with fox 2.0s in the rear.
I'm also throwing on some Fuel Couplers in 20x10 with -12 offset wrapped in Toyo Open Country AT 2s in 295/65-20. I'll update this post with some pics when I get it back Tuesday.
Truck is going in tomorrow morning for BDS 4 inch lift with fox 2.0s in the rear.
I'm also throwing on some Fuel Couplers in 20x10 with -12 offset wrapped in Toyo Open Country AT 2s in 295/65-20. I'll update this post with some pics when I get it back Tuesday.
#12
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sick cant wait man!!! im redoing mine next year as i want 18x10 -24 on my 35 AT2 current 18x9 +25 on 2" level with AT2 i want a 4" lift as well and was thinking That setup
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Yeah I have been researching stuff all summer and finally bit the bullet. I just dropped off the tires and the whole front end was apart on the lift. I wasn't able to get any photos but it's pretty exciting stuff. I'll definitely post up as soon I get it back around lunch time tomorrow.
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ryanralston07 (08-26-2015)
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Hey guys, sorry for keeping you all waiting. Some crazy stuff has happened, and it's just cemented the fact that I have awful luck with anything with a motor, despite being around this stuff my entire life. Anyway, here's some pictures, I just got the truck back home at about 2 today.
I'll post an update tomorrow with exactly what's been going on the past couple days.
I'll post an update tomorrow with exactly what's been going on the past couple days.
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Tex045 (08-27-2015)
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Alright guys, quick update for everyone. The truck went into a trusted truck/offroad shop in my local area on Monday for lift and tires, and I was told I would be able to pick the truck up mid day on Tuesday and be ready to go. I was naively optimistic that it would actually get done and I would have my truck to drive for the week. The first fiasco I encountered was the tire shop that the offroad shop uses couldn't mount my metric 295 wide tires on my 10 inch wide rim. Instead of the shop picking up the tires and taking them to a second place for them to try and get them mounted they call me about an hour after when they said the truck would be down and pull the: "well if you want it finished today" card. I picked up both the tires and the rims, brought it to another shop about 20 minutes away and after 2 hours of fighting they were able to get the tires mounted and balanced. At that point it was 6 pm, the truck wasn't back from alignment and I was told I had to wait another day.
I wish I was able to be more of a part of the build than just being the errand boy but so is life. I also don't mind waiting if it means the work is being done right, so I wasn't too upset about the extra delay.
Yesterday around 11 I got a call that the truck was finished. Here's where things get interesting. Upon starting the truck, I got an awful screeching sound that sounded like an old power steering pump was trying to pressurize or burning itself out. I went to lunch down the street and after hearing that sound several more times I decided to hop back down the road to the shop and ask them about it, because it was definitely not normal for my truck. At first we thought it was the steering rack, but we realized we can make the sound on command by pumping the brakes. This led us to the vacuum pump which feeds the power brake assist? After a quick call to ford we found out that there was a TSB out for the pump but it was still safe to drive home. I decided I would take care of it as soon as my schedule allowed and I took the truck home.
This leads to the second and much more significant issue. Before getting on the highway, I was coming to a slow stop and heard a brief yet very ominous sounding grinding noise from under the truck. I made sure to listen for it but I couldn't recreate the sound. I hopped on the highway and made the hour drive back to my house. When getting off the exit I heard it again, but this time it was grinding for a while and I came to a stop as abruptly as I could. It went away until the bottom of a hill near my house, when in low third gear it came back, starting as a grinding sound then escalating to clanking and then finally, with more throttle in.
The noise stops completely when the truck is put into 4 wheel drive, and 4 wheel drive fully engages.
I believe that there is either a vacuum leak from a pinched or cut line, or the vacuum pump is shot. I think that a leak is much more likely, because the pump hasn't had any issues so far, and just started after I got the truck back. I have checked the IWE actuator valve, there is vacuum coming from the inlet hose and there is vacuum coming through the top side that goes to outlet house. I traced the vacuum line to the left side hub and vacuum was strong, even at higher revs (in drive with foot on the brake building boost). However, on the right side hub the vacuum was weaker, and even fell off some more at higher revs. From what I have found this can either be a faulty check valve or a leak somewhere in the system.
My questions are: would a failing vacuum pump cause noise when the brakes are pumped AND cause loss of vacuum in a hub on one side, which causes the grinding noises? Also, what else could I be causing this noise? When the grinding started, I put the truck in neutral once and revved it like I would if i were still continuing down the road in drive and the grinding stayed the same or intensified. Is this consistent with IWE gears failing to mesh?
The shop is coming to pick up the truck this afternoon and they will consult with the local Ford dealership, and I am looking for any alternatives for what else this could be. I read up on the mechanics behind the vacuum system and IWE reliance on that, and I am fairly confident that is the noise I am hearing, but how would a vacuum leak also affect the pump cycling after pumping the brakes?
An ideas are welcome.
I wish I was able to be more of a part of the build than just being the errand boy but so is life. I also don't mind waiting if it means the work is being done right, so I wasn't too upset about the extra delay.
Yesterday around 11 I got a call that the truck was finished. Here's where things get interesting. Upon starting the truck, I got an awful screeching sound that sounded like an old power steering pump was trying to pressurize or burning itself out. I went to lunch down the street and after hearing that sound several more times I decided to hop back down the road to the shop and ask them about it, because it was definitely not normal for my truck. At first we thought it was the steering rack, but we realized we can make the sound on command by pumping the brakes. This led us to the vacuum pump which feeds the power brake assist? After a quick call to ford we found out that there was a TSB out for the pump but it was still safe to drive home. I decided I would take care of it as soon as my schedule allowed and I took the truck home.
This leads to the second and much more significant issue. Before getting on the highway, I was coming to a slow stop and heard a brief yet very ominous sounding grinding noise from under the truck. I made sure to listen for it but I couldn't recreate the sound. I hopped on the highway and made the hour drive back to my house. When getting off the exit I heard it again, but this time it was grinding for a while and I came to a stop as abruptly as I could. It went away until the bottom of a hill near my house, when in low third gear it came back, starting as a grinding sound then escalating to clanking and then finally, with more throttle in.
The noise stops completely when the truck is put into 4 wheel drive, and 4 wheel drive fully engages.
I believe that there is either a vacuum leak from a pinched or cut line, or the vacuum pump is shot. I think that a leak is much more likely, because the pump hasn't had any issues so far, and just started after I got the truck back. I have checked the IWE actuator valve, there is vacuum coming from the inlet hose and there is vacuum coming through the top side that goes to outlet house. I traced the vacuum line to the left side hub and vacuum was strong, even at higher revs (in drive with foot on the brake building boost). However, on the right side hub the vacuum was weaker, and even fell off some more at higher revs. From what I have found this can either be a faulty check valve or a leak somewhere in the system.
My questions are: would a failing vacuum pump cause noise when the brakes are pumped AND cause loss of vacuum in a hub on one side, which causes the grinding noises? Also, what else could I be causing this noise? When the grinding started, I put the truck in neutral once and revved it like I would if i were still continuing down the road in drive and the grinding stayed the same or intensified. Is this consistent with IWE gears failing to mesh?
The shop is coming to pick up the truck this afternoon and they will consult with the local Ford dealership, and I am looking for any alternatives for what else this could be. I read up on the mechanics behind the vacuum system and IWE reliance on that, and I am fairly confident that is the noise I am hearing, but how would a vacuum leak also affect the pump cycling after pumping the brakes?
An ideas are welcome.
Last edited by BC119; 08-27-2015 at 12:10 PM.
#20
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Sorry to hear about your troubles. I had a bad experience myself this past December when I had a level installed. First, the lift broke while my truck was in the air and it damn near fell off - I was right there and about had a stroke. They had to back a flatbed under it to get her down. A cable in the lift broke.
Then when she was all buttoned up, something sounded horribly wrong. Turns out they had damaged the vacuum lines to engage the 4WD during the install. This was on a Friday so I couldn't drive my truck the whole weekend. I ended up having it flat-bedded back to the shop as I didn't want to cause any damage to the truck.
The shop got it fixed at no additional cost to me and were very apologetic so all was good but man, that was a sh%tty experience.
Hope you get everything straightened out shortly. The truck looks awesome!
Then when she was all buttoned up, something sounded horribly wrong. Turns out they had damaged the vacuum lines to engage the 4WD during the install. This was on a Friday so I couldn't drive my truck the whole weekend. I ended up having it flat-bedded back to the shop as I didn't want to cause any damage to the truck.
The shop got it fixed at no additional cost to me and were very apologetic so all was good but man, that was a sh%tty experience.
Hope you get everything straightened out shortly. The truck looks awesome!