Originally Posted by deerhunter42

I Don't get the expected mileage yet. Maybe because I have only a 1000 miles on my 2012.

Originally Posted by sranger

People can argue these MPG numbers all they want. However, it will not change the fact that the ONLY way these trucks will get good City/HWY miles is if they live in a mostly flat area with little stop and go traffic and you keep HWY speeds below 65mph.....PERIOD!!!!! The damn thing still weighs nearly 6000lb and is as aerodynamic as a brick...

Also with the ecoboost, you get horrible mileage while it is warning up. If you make a buch of short local trips you can easily see 10-12mpg consistently. They tend to drink gas at an alarming rate when towing a heavy load (more of a drop that the V8's)...

The thing that I have noticed about the Ecoboost is that you cannot significantly improve your MPG with good driving habits the way you can with a V8. I have been able to best EPA numbers with every vehicle that I have ever owned except for this Ecoboost truck. I think that is what is so surprising to many people who have owned V8 trucks in the past...

The ecoboost seems to have good power on par with the big 6.2L V8. However, in real world (not completely flat & traffic) I do not see how it offers all that much more economy (maybe 1-2mpg at best).

Based on my own personal experience, the Ecoboost is mostly about "boost" and very little about "Eco". I think Ford would have had far less dissapointed customers if they had simply called the engine "TwinForce" like they originally planned to call it...

Originally Posted by Theocoog

I put up this poll because I keep reading posts where people say the EPA's numbers are full of sh*t, but so far, the results of this poll are saying that the EPA's estimates are accurate for approximately 89% of the people that have responded (as of this post). It will be interesting to me to see if this trend continues.

Originally Posted by sranger

The ONLY reason for the 89% Yes is that the range was made so broad by Ford in the first place... Most 10-15 year old tucks of all brands would also fall into the same range. For example my old 5.4L 2000 F150 would fall in the range of the EPA ratings.

So what does in prove????

A realistic poll would be:

Does your MPG:

1) Exceed EPA ratings.

2) Meet the high side of EPA ratings.

3) Meet the middle of EPA ratings.

4) Meet the low side of EPA ratings

5) Fall below the range of EPA ratings.

Originally Posted by Theocoog

The ranges and ratings are made by EPA, not Ford, and they apply to a specific model and year, so they wouldn't be applicable to your 2000 F-150, regardless of whether it meets them or not. That's why I posted this in the 2011+ engine section and not somewhere else.

I do like your idea for a poll, and I had thought of doing it that way but I couldn't think of a way to phrase the questions unambiguously, and that is most important in writing a question. "High side", "low side" - those are subjective and open to interpretation. Perhaps I should have had three questions:

1) Does your average fall within range
2) Does your average exceed the EPA range
3) Does your average fall below the EPA range

But I didn't and there were football games to watch, so I didn't think beyond the two questions that would satisfy MY curiosity.

So..what does it prove? Well, so far, the numbers seem to show that people who claim that the EPA ranges are bogus are incorrect, for the majority of people that have answered the poll. And that is what I wanted to know.

Originally Posted by Theocoog

So..what does it prove? Well, so far, the numbers seem to show that people who claim that the EPA ranges are bogus are incorrect, for the majority of people that have answered the poll. And that is what I wanted to know.