Winter oil - fuel dilution
10-12-2014, 10:37 PM
#11
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Ford has a technical service bulletin for this issue. Not so sure how much of an improvement it provides, but probably no harm to get it done. It appears if your engine already has a block heater, which I would assume in Edmonton it does, but they still pull it out and replace it. Perhaps it is replaced with a higher output unit?? The PCV valve change is likely to improve flow.
http://www.ford-trucks.com/tsbs/full...0&tsbyear=2012
http://www.ford-trucks.com/tsbs/full...0&tsbyear=2012
Last edited by Ron AKA; 10-12-2014 at 10:41 PM.
10-13-2014, 01:02 AM
#12
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Thread Starter
Ford has a technical service bulletin for this issue. Not so sure how much of an improvement it provides, but probably no harm to get it done. It appears if your engine already has a block heater, which I would assume in Edmonton it does, but they still pull it out and replace it. Perhaps it is replaced with a higher output unit?? The PCV valve change is likely to improve flow. http://www.ford-trucks.com/tsbs/full...0&tsbyear=2012
10-13-2014, 06:58 AM
#13
5w30 that meets Ford WSS and GM's will do great. Install Rx dual valve or UPR cans for the gas removal if you want to. Ask your dealership to instal it when U get TSB. They work. Check out Swap engine on F150 baja truck on U Tube. 15 seconds from the end there is a Can on passenger front of truck.
I drained this Caught in the Can this afternoon while driving in the mostly beating rain on a 270 mile expressway trip in the fresh air side which didn't make it into/thru the CAC. Outside cab temps were mid fifties. There are 3 distinct levels/rings of at least 3 different substances in the glass. Synthetic oil has a little over 5000 miles on it, mostly interstate and expressway speeds. Near 2 ounces I would guess.
I drained this Caught in the Can this afternoon while driving in the mostly beating rain on a 270 mile expressway trip in the fresh air side which didn't make it into/thru the CAC. Outside cab temps were mid fifties. There are 3 distinct levels/rings of at least 3 different substances in the glass. Synthetic oil has a little over 5000 miles on it, mostly interstate and expressway speeds. Near 2 ounces I would guess.
Last edited by papa tiger; 12-10-2018 at 09:48 PM.
10-19-2014, 12:35 PM
#14
I found this to supplement the quickness of flow and volumn as the lubrication point not Viscosity on the Direct injection motors
Oil and timing chain wear
Another source of timing chain problems is oil of the wrong viscosity or specifications. A lower viscosity oil will flow faster than a heavier oil, especially when cold. Engine designers specify lower viscosity oil to promote quicker flow. Many engines with timing chains now specify 0W20 oil viscosity. Quickly pressurizing the hydraulic tensioner keeps the chain tight and reduces guide breakage.
Timing chains also have very specific lubrication requirements. Modern engines with timing chains, may have oil specifications which only synthetic oil will meet. This is not an option or a suggestion. Oil that does not meet the requirements will cause timing chain wear and very expensive problems. This is even more critical on direct-injection engines, which may use the timing chain to drive the injector pump. Extra load on the chain, combined with insufficient oil, is a recipe for disaster. All 2011 and later GM engines require oil that meets the dexos specification. Not using dexos may result is engine failure that is not covered under the GM warranty.
Oil and timing chain wear
Another source of timing chain problems is oil of the wrong viscosity or specifications. A lower viscosity oil will flow faster than a heavier oil, especially when cold. Engine designers specify lower viscosity oil to promote quicker flow. Many engines with timing chains now specify 0W20 oil viscosity. Quickly pressurizing the hydraulic tensioner keeps the chain tight and reduces guide breakage.
Timing chains also have very specific lubrication requirements. Modern engines with timing chains, may have oil specifications which only synthetic oil will meet. This is not an option or a suggestion. Oil that does not meet the requirements will cause timing chain wear and very expensive problems. This is even more critical on direct-injection engines, which may use the timing chain to drive the injector pump. Extra load on the chain, combined with insufficient oil, is a recipe for disaster. All 2011 and later GM engines require oil that meets the dexos specification. Not using dexos may result is engine failure that is not covered under the GM warranty.
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10-19-2014, 11:48 PM
#15
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I found this to supplement the quickness of flow and volumn as the lubrication point not Viscosity on the Direct injection motors
Oil and timing chain wear
Another source of timing chain problems is oil of the wrong viscosity or specifications. A lower viscosity oil will flow faster than a heavier oil, especially when cold. Engine designers specify lower viscosity oil to promote quicker flow. Many engines with timing chains now specify 0W20 oil viscosity. Quickly pressurizing the hydraulic tensioner keeps the chain tight and reduces guide breakage.
Timing chains also have very specific lubrication requirements. Modern engines with timing chains, may have oil specifications which only synthetic oil will meet. This is not an option or a suggestion. Oil that does not meet the requirements will cause timing chain wear and very expensive problems. This is even more critical on direct-injection engines, which may use the timing chain to drive the injector pump. Extra load on the chain, combined with insufficient oil, is a recipe for disaster. All 2011 and later GM engines require oil that meets the dexos specification. Not using dexos may result is engine failure that is not covered under the GM warranty.
Oil and timing chain wear
Another source of timing chain problems is oil of the wrong viscosity or specifications. A lower viscosity oil will flow faster than a heavier oil, especially when cold. Engine designers specify lower viscosity oil to promote quicker flow. Many engines with timing chains now specify 0W20 oil viscosity. Quickly pressurizing the hydraulic tensioner keeps the chain tight and reduces guide breakage.
Timing chains also have very specific lubrication requirements. Modern engines with timing chains, may have oil specifications which only synthetic oil will meet. This is not an option or a suggestion. Oil that does not meet the requirements will cause timing chain wear and very expensive problems. This is even more critical on direct-injection engines, which may use the timing chain to drive the injector pump. Extra load on the chain, combined with insufficient oil, is a recipe for disaster. All 2011 and later GM engines require oil that meets the dexos specification. Not using dexos may result is engine failure that is not covered under the GM warranty.
What is the source of your cut and paste information? Ford does not approve a 0W20 or even a 0W30 oil for the EcoBoost. While chains may like 20 weight oil better during warm up when all oil is too thick, it is not going to like it running loaded after warm up.
10-20-2014, 12:00 AM
#16
Nowhere in the article does it mention Ford. It mentions Dexos for GM and 0W20. Some have already stated the 3.5L EB for cars is designed to run 5W20 with Fords oil Specs. Believe the differences between the 2 motors is camshaft and ECU programming mainly. There is probably no reason to believe the motor would not run well on 5W20 except when used as a tow/haul vehicle.
The motor is designed for amount of flow lubrication that meet Ford Lubrication specs and some of those oils meet dexos American Specs. Their requisite is rapid flow of lubrication shortly after start up is vital and not getting it destructive to the timing set up; be it chains or tensioner/guide breakage.
The motor is designed for amount of flow lubrication that meet Ford Lubrication specs and some of those oils meet dexos American Specs. Their requisite is rapid flow of lubrication shortly after start up is vital and not getting it destructive to the timing set up; be it chains or tensioner/guide breakage.
Last edited by papa tiger; 10-20-2014 at 12:07 AM.