Tuners
12-05-2013, 08:33 AM
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Tuners
Couple questions on tuners for EB
1. how much hp/tq over stock is seen?
2. Can a dealer tech retrieve data from the ECM/ECU that shows an altered tune, voiding the warranty?
1. how much hp/tq over stock is seen?
2. Can a dealer tech retrieve data from the ECM/ECU that shows an altered tune, voiding the warranty?
12-05-2013, 08:43 AM
#2
Senior Member/Vietnam Vet
1. Depends on the tune. Check the websites for SCT, MPT, 5 Star, the SSI forum to see results. I mention those because I think the info is readily available on those sites. However, dyno results are only one criteria for choosing a tune. Other criteria are drive-ability and safety. The fastest tune may not be the one best for you.
2. The factory may, the dealer probably not.
A guy who had removed his tune 1000 miles ago went in for work and they denied based on catback and tune. He said what tune and they did the warranty work. They were just fishing.
Never take the truck in without reverting to stock. It is best to put about 300 miles on the stock tune to clear evidence of a reset, but if called on it, you checked and cleared codes with a code reader like ScanGauge.
For something like a blown engine, Ford may ask for the PCM to check for anomalies like excessive boost, etc and may deny warranty based on findings. I know of one case where a tuned EB truck blew and was tuned and the warranty work was done anyway because the broken piston skirts were a casting flaw not caused in any way by the owner.
2. The factory may, the dealer probably not.
A guy who had removed his tune 1000 miles ago went in for work and they denied based on catback and tune. He said what tune and they did the warranty work. They were just fishing.
Never take the truck in without reverting to stock. It is best to put about 300 miles on the stock tune to clear evidence of a reset, but if called on it, you checked and cleared codes with a code reader like ScanGauge.
For something like a blown engine, Ford may ask for the PCM to check for anomalies like excessive boost, etc and may deny warranty based on findings. I know of one case where a tuned EB truck blew and was tuned and the warranty work was done anyway because the broken piston skirts were a casting flaw not caused in any way by the owner.
Last edited by SkiSmuggs; 12-05-2013 at 09:44 AM.
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12-05-2013, 03:04 PM
#3
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Thread Starter
So with all vendors, only one reply. Thanks Ski. Was hoping for more information on possible voiding of warranty.
Concerning hp/tq, I realize many factors involved, was just looking for "ballpark" numbers or %.
Concerning hp/tq, I realize many factors involved, was just looking for "ballpark" numbers or %.
12-05-2013, 03:06 PM
#4
1. Depends on the tune. Check the websites for SCT, MPT, 5 Star, the SSI forum to see results. I mention those because I think the info is readily available on those sites. However, dyno results are only one criteria for choosing a tune. Other criteria are drive-ability and safety. The fastest tune may not be the one best for you.
2. The factory may, the dealer probably not.
A guy who had removed his tune 1000 miles ago went in for work and they denied based on catback and tune. He said what tune and they did the warranty work. They were just fishing.
Never take the truck in without reverting to stock. It is best to put about 300 miles on the stock tune to clear evidence of a reset, but if called on it, you checked and cleared codes with a code reader like ScanGauge.
For something like a blown engine, Ford may ask for the PCM to check for anomalies like excessive boost, etc and may deny warranty based on findings. I know of one case where a tuned EB truck blew and was tuned and the warranty work was done anyway because the broken piston skirts were a casting flaw not caused in any way by the owner.
2. The factory may, the dealer probably not.
A guy who had removed his tune 1000 miles ago went in for work and they denied based on catback and tune. He said what tune and they did the warranty work. They were just fishing.
Never take the truck in without reverting to stock. It is best to put about 300 miles on the stock tune to clear evidence of a reset, but if called on it, you checked and cleared codes with a code reader like ScanGauge.
For something like a blown engine, Ford may ask for the PCM to check for anomalies like excessive boost, etc and may deny warranty based on findings. I know of one case where a tuned EB truck blew and was tuned and the warranty work was done anyway because the broken piston skirts were a casting flaw not caused in any way by the owner.
Ski pretty much hit it nail on the head.
12-05-2013, 03:55 PM
#5
The one build is that if you go with a programmer such as an SCT device, it will come with a couple of canned tunes to get your feet wet. Some stay with the canned tune and some want more that is to be had with a custom tuner (dyno or email.)
I believe the number for a stock sct 87 tune was +35HP
I believe the number for a stock sct 87 tune was +35HP
12-05-2013, 05:38 PM
#6
Senior Member/Vietnam Vet
http://www.sctflash.com/PDF/SCT_Ecoboost.pdf
I think vendors prefer not to talk about possible loss of warranty, but it seems to be pretty rare for it to happen. You can minimize that possibility by being smart about it.
Last edited by SkiSmuggs; 12-05-2013 at 05:43 PM.
12-05-2013, 06:03 PM
#7
Senior Member
My best advice is to deny deny deny, like ski said tell them you reflashed it for codes at auto zone or something. But always deny no matter what they say.