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Old 11-05-2014, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SkiSmuggs
It has been reported repeatedly in the forum that intakes have almost no benefit as Ford already plucked that low hanging fruit. And anything bigger than 3" on an exhaust can reduce low-end torque.
However, last February, I was getting the lowest MPG I've ever experienced (brutal winter), but switched from Gulf 87 to Mobil 93 and gained about 2 mpg, so winter gas, brand of gas and octane can have effects.
Please read up on turbo exhaust theory before spreading misinformation.
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Originally Posted by 03king
Please read up on turbo exhaust theory before spreading misinformation.


What he said was 100% accurate.
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Originally Posted by biff420


What he said was 100% accurate.
I pull an 8500 lb TT and I lost no low end torque with a 4" catback.
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Originally Posted by phantomblackgto
I pull an 8500 lb TT and I lost no low end torque with a 4" catback.
Key word in his post: can

A larger exhaust done right can mitigate that loss. Notice that word again.
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Originally Posted by 03king
Please read up on turbo exhaust theory before spreading misinformation.
I stand by my statement. For just tooling around under light throttle, we are not in boost and are naturally aspirated. If you give it more and activate boost, then you get more low-end and less MPG.
My fifth wheel is 9500 lbs and I went with a 3" Full Race exhaust for that reason. If Full Race says 3" is good for up to 600 HP, that is good enough for me.

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Originally Posted by biff420
Key word in his post: can

A larger exhaust done right can mitigate that loss. Notice that word again.
From everything I've ever heard or read, bigger is better for a turbo exhaust. 4" catback is ideal for the 3.5L Eco. 3" is on the small side.
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The ecoboost vehicles do not make enough power to out flow 3" pipe. 3" pipe can flow 813cfm +- a few. You can count 2-2.2 cfm per 1hp. So a 400rwhp na engine will require 813+-cfm exhaust, however, a good bit of that exhaust is used to spin the turbos so the eb setup will not require that. So, you still have all of the flow you need in the upper rpm range but do not have any of the torque loss down low from larger exhaust.
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Originally Posted by Kittrell87
The ecoboost vehicles do not make enough power to out flow 3" pipe. 3" pipe can flow 813cfm +- a few. You can count 2-2.2 cfm per 1hp. So a 400rwhp na engine will require 813+-cfm exhaust, however, a good bit of that exhaust is used to spin the turbos so the eb setup will not require that. So, you still have all of the flow you need in the upper rpm range but do not have any of the torque loss down low from larger exhaust.
I don't know about your conversions, but I do know you don't want any back pressure through the exhaust on a turbo application. Back pressure through the exhaust fights against the turbos. At least that's what I've always been told by the turbo guys and it makes sense to me.
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Originally Posted by Kittrell87
I didn't notice it last year. And I definitely wouldn't think I would see a 3mpg drop due to a little colder weather or winter blend fuel.
1st time I have checked w/Winter blend & I am seeing a 4mpg drop with my 4.6


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