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Old 04-20-2015, 11:04 AM
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I was just teasing about wha' I wrote, all in good forum fun. I'm mostly Irish too, doggone fightin' blood flowing in me old bones.

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And to answer your statement; I agree a weep hole wont keep the goo out of the IC but it will allow it to exit the IC.

Actually, my point is that IT WON'T let all the goo/vapor/water exit the IC. It is not going to be an efficient way to fix the weak PCV system that all car makers employ...and especially vehicles with turbos. The stock stuff works under vacuum...idle/steady non-boosted coasting/etc...but not under larger volumes. Besides the fact that you don't really want ANY GOO in the IC. Even a Catch Can can't get 100% out before the IC but it will "catch" much more than doing nothing. Just reiterating "drill a hole" is futile. It has been shown that just "drilling a hole" does not keep the system sludge free...or close to it.


Included in that sludge with be certain particulates that can and will damage surfaces (IC/etc) and upper valve train areas within the engine. Leading to wear and tear that can be avoided.


And don't act like posting "drill a weep hole" was a fully enlightened post containing all the whys and hows...
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Sure it wont get 100% of the goo out of the intercooler but its better than nothing. Plus there are a lot of guys on here that think the catch cans are a waste of money. There are also a lot of people who think the goo isnt going to hurt anything.

Again, if you would have written your OP better we wouldn't be arguing over this stuff.
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Originally Posted by Tothemax
Sure it wont get 100% of the goo out of the intercooler but its better than nothing. Plus there are a lot of guys on here that think the catch cans are a waste of money. There are also a lot of people who think the goo isnt going to hurt anything.

Well the drill the IC was one of the first quick remedies. There is plenty of proof that anything but fuel and air into the combustion chamber is usually bad. I guess we should stop using air filters if that is the case. An air filter is just another form of "catch" to do what??? Yep, stop dirt and anything else that is not fuel or air from entering your engine. Heck, why do we need fuel filters? What's a few more contaminates getting into the engine going to do? Your premise is more than flawed but you stick with it if it makes you happy.

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Again, if you would have written your OP better we wouldn't be arguing over this stuff.

My OP was a pic of the stock IC with "goo" and that was the post. Then a blurb about how I was going to find a way to stop this happening again...A FIX! Nothing more, nothing less. Humm...your retort was "drill a hole". Not very much information in that response IMO. According to your directions on how to write a post...you should have "written" your REPONSE better.


I have never heard of one person who has a functioning "catch can" say it wasn't doing what it was supposed to do. I have many years of experience with Turbo's (gas and diesel)...with Catch Cans (gas and diesel applications)...and particles/foreign matter entering the intake steam. I have seen the results including worn valve trains, etc. While racing Karts I worked for a company VTS Vehicle Testing Services and all we did was testing and wear measurements on a variety of parts/fluids/tires.


The only great thing about your postings is that more info is being offered, although not by you. So continue on your way with "drill the hole" and "write your OP better" (to your standards) and I will continue improving upon my Ecoboost which I spent MY HARD EARNED CASH without even a hiccup (shudder)...or runny nose (goo)...


I want, to quote your own words, something that works "better than nothing"...

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I removed the intercooler on my 2011 with 21k miles to clean the crud out and drill the hole. It ended up being bone dry inside so I didn't clean it or drill it, I just reinstalled it.
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These were taken after running with a hole drilled for 20k miles. Did it let some out? Clearly, looking at the IC support bracket. Was it letting enough out to prevent bad things from happening to the engine? No.
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Originally Posted by maplelakeduckslayer
These were taken after running with a hole drilled for 20k miles. Did it let some out? Clearly, looking at the IC support bracket. Was it letting enough out to prevent bad things from happening to the engine? No.
Just curious - what bad things happened to yours?
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This is what mine looked like on my 2011 when I removed it @ 21k miles, it was bone dry.
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Originally Posted by itguy08
Just curious - what bad things happened to yours?
Detonation, hesitation, improperly burning plugs, and dirty map sensors affecting performance.
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Originally Posted by DieselDawg
Well the drill the IC was one of the first quick remedies. There is plenty of proof that anything but fuel and air into the combustion chamber is usually bad. I guess we should stop using air filters if that is the case. An air filter is just another form of "catch" to do what??? Yep, stop dirt and anything else that is not fuel or air from entering your engine. Heck, why do we need fuel filters? What's a few more contaminates getting into the engine going to do? Your premise is more than flawed but you stick with it if it makes you happy.




My OP was a pic of the stock IC with "goo" and that was the post. Then a blurb about how I was going to find a way to stop this happening again...A FIX! Nothing more, nothing less. Humm...your retort was "drill a hole". Not very much information in that response IMO. According to your directions on how to write a post...you should have "written" your REPONSE better.


I have never heard of one person who has a functioning "catch can" say it wasn't doing what it was supposed to do. I have many years of experience with Turbo's (gas and diesel)...with Catch Cans (gas and diesel applications)...and particles/foreign matter entering the intake steam. I have seen the results including worn valve trains, etc. While racing Karts I worked for a company VTS Vehicle Testing Services and all we did was testing and wear measurements on a variety of parts/fluids/tires.


The only great thing about your postings is that more info is being offered, although not by you. So continue on your way with "drill the hole" and "write your OP better" (to your standards) and I will continue improving upon my Ecoboost which I spent MY HARD EARNED CASH without even a hiccup (shudder)...or runny nose (goo)...


I want, to quote your own words, something that works "better than nothing"...
Your OP was a few pics with a vague question at the end. I responded with a solid answer. Drill a weep hole and it wont accumulate. How much more info do you need?

I never said catch cans don't catch stuff. I just said there are a lot of guys here who don't think they are needed.

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