So I take my Eco B to the local exhaust shop...
06-21-2011, 05:33 PM
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I wouldn't mess with the intake or exhaust on a turbo'd engine without tuning the computer. You are going to affect the amount of boost and when that boost comes in. Ford would have a perfect case to point fingers when the engine lets go.
I might do some mods to mine, but I'll wait until the warranty is out and tune the ecm as well.
I might do some mods to mine, but I'll wait until the warranty is out and tune the ecm as well.
06-21-2011, 05:38 PM
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yesterday to consider a magnaflow muffler or somthing similar. My exhaust guy Randy says "do you have the 5.0 liter or a single exhaust turbo six?" I of course have the EB. He says "No can do, Ford will void your warranty if I install a different muffler". Damn, I guess I'll be silent.
06-21-2011, 06:32 PM
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Just put the stock parts back on if you have an issue. My dealer is cool about stuff so I'm good.
The problem arises when there is a tune on the engine and there is a major engine failure. Ford will check the computer and then your turkey is cooked.
The problem arises when there is a tune on the engine and there is a major engine failure. Ford will check the computer and then your turkey is cooked.
06-21-2011, 07:54 PM
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Any time you mod a car you open up the door to a potential denial of warranty claim. That said, the risk is far greater on an engine like the EB which is forced induction and brand new. While there is very little actual risk in adding a quality cat back exhaust to any car, the potential for there to be some sort of failure in the EB as it accrues more and more customer miles in it's inaugural application is much greater. My concern is not in the potential for an exhaust to damage the EB, but for the exhaust to become a point of contention on a problem that had nothing to do with it while Ford goes through any potential growing pains with the EB platform. On a 5.0 there's really nothing bad a cat back system can do to the engine so long as it actually allows the exhaust gasses to exit the system without some freak extreme restriction. Once you start to move forward of the cats and get into the CPU or intake then you open up a whole dif. pandoras box.
06-21-2011, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by truth
Any time you mod a car you open up the door to a potential denial of warranty claim. That said, the risk is far greater on an engine like the EB which is forced induction and brand new. While there is very little actual risk in adding a quality cat back exhaust to any car, the potential for there to be some sort of failure in the EB as it accrues more and more customer miles in it's inaugural application is much greater. My concern is not in the potential for an exhaust to damage the EB, but for the exhaust to become a point of contention on a problem that had nothing to do with it while Ford goes through any potential growing pains with the EB platform. On a 5.0 there's really nothing bad a cat back system can do to the engine so long as it actually allows the exhaust gasses to exit the system without some freak extreme restriction. Once you start to move forward of the cats and get into the CPU or intake then you open up a whole dif. pandoras box.
06-21-2011, 08:04 PM
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Thanks truth, I've gone online and heard how a magnaflow sounds on a 5.0, and sounds awesome. I'll ask my dealer first and then make a decision even if they tell me it will break the warranty.
06-21-2011, 09:03 PM
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Any time you mod a car you open up the door to a potential denial of warranty claim. That said, the risk is far greater on an engine like the EB which is forced induction and brand new. While there is very little actual risk in adding a quality cat back exhaust to any car, the potential for there to be some sort of failure in the EB as it accrues more and more customer miles in it's inaugural application is much greater. My concern is not in the potential for an exhaust to damage the EB, but for the exhaust to become a point of contention on a problem that had nothing to do with it while Ford goes through any potential growing pains with the EB platform. On a 5.0 there's really nothing bad a cat back system can do to the engine so long as it actually allows the exhaust gasses to exit the system without some freak extreme restriction. Once you start to move forward of the cats and get into the CPU or intake then you open up a whole dif. pandoras box.
still luv my EB..........
06-21-2011, 10:57 PM
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06-22-2011, 03:37 AM
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We don't have to prove them wrong...They have to prove thier position right and that would be very difficult. Leaving the Stock Cat in place and running larger dia. pipes and a free flow exhaust (cat back) is not going to cause "overboost scenario" by any means. It might make the turbos spool up a bit quicker and sound better...but...I know what you are saying.
I really think that it you only replaced the muffler/reasonator with an aftermarket and left the piping stock...they would not have a leg to stand on
I really think that it you only replaced the muffler/reasonator with an aftermarket and left the piping stock...they would not have a leg to stand on
The dealer situation can be crazy, as some dealers, for instance, sell tuners for diesels, and if you blow something and get it to them, will hide that from Ford and get a blown turbo or whatever covered under warranty. But the dealer in the next town may blow your warranty out of the water forever.