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Possibly hurt 3.7

Old 01-04-2014, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mobile_audio_concept
I also forgot to mention the motor has a tick that wasnt there before....
check the oil level. I've read that with the 5.0's the Variable Valve timing is affected by low oil levels and the power drops dramatically. Might be the same with the 3.7
Old 01-04-2014, 07:13 PM
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  • Check out the Morse Tec site for info on their new VCT in the Ford engines. This makes the Atkinson cycle restart possible.
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Old 01-29-2014, 03:10 PM
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Finally took the truck in to have it checked out...they claim there was a tsb update for the pcm so they did that and said everything else was fine....we shall see....ill report back after a tank or 2 of fuel with my results....

btw....they also said to clear all the trips once a month after filling up....i dunno it all sounds like bs to me but ill jump thru their hoops for now....
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Originally Posted by mobile_audio_concept
Finally took the truck in to have it checked out...they claim there was a tsb update for the pcm so they did that and said everything else was fine....we shall see....ill report back after a tank or 2 of fuel with my results....

btw....they also said to clear all the trips once a month after filling up....i dunno it all sounds like bs to me but ill jump thru their hoops for now....
Clear the trips? Holy ****h! I guess they figure if they give you something to do, and it works, that that will end your issue.

I haven't reset the B trip since I got it. It is off by the 35 miles that were on it after a test drive. My lifetime mpg is 16.2 in 45,000 miles. About 10,000 of those are towing. Not bad for my little turbo six.
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Well what the dealer said is total bs i just refilled my tank and i got an average of 14.3 mpg....when i picked it up and filled up i was getting 16.5-17 mpg...it quickly went to crap, i tried easing into the throttle and slowly gradually pick up speed and use my cruise also kept it at 65 on the hwy...i really dunno what the deal is with this thing...

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