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Old 08-18-2012, 04:57 PM   #1
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Afternoon everyone.
Recently purchased my 2012 F -150 King Ranch with the 5.0 V8 and I am coming up on my first oil change. Crawling under the truck today the drain plug on the oil pan is easy to get to, no problem. However the oil filter appears to be a little bit of a challenge, not so much removing it, but trying to keep from making a huge mess with oil running everywhere.
My question, it appears there is a plastic catch pan if you will, under the filter that dumps off right in front of where the lower A-Arm bolts to the frame. Itís really hard to see up in there. If I remove the oil filter slowly and let it drain slowly will this catch pan handle all the oil??
Just hopin one of you have had experience with this.
Thanks!!
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Can't speak for the 5.0 but that plastic piece your are speaking of does nothing on my EcoBoost. The oil drains straight down through the square hole in the skid plate. I can't figure out why Ford put that plastic piece there. It is very deceptive on the EcoBoost. I thought maybe it works with the 5.0. Maybe someone who has done a 5.0 will chime in.
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I haven't looked at my eco yet, but remember on my 5.4l raptor that the plastic piece was too far away from the oil filter and didn't catch the oil either, it ended up going straight down to the skip plate like above poster mentions. This was on a level garage floor.

Why do they make them this way? I mean, don't they test it out?
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I haven't looked at my eco yet, but remember on my 5.4l raptor that the plastic piece was too far away from the oil filter and didn't catch the oil either, it ended up going straight down to the skip plate like above poster mentions. This was on a level garage floor.

Why do they make them this way? I mean, don't they test it out?
They probably make them that way so you'll give up and take it to the dealer.
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The tray does very little, but the oil coming from the filter doesn't make much of a mess; it all seemed to drain in one general area. I pop the oil plug in again, move the drain pan under the a-arm in the area of the filter, twist it off and just try to keep from dropping the filter. I didn't even really notice the little drain groove until I was cleaning up the spilled oil; it definitely didn't drain down that groove when I pulled the filter off. I did this with the front end jacked up slightly so that I could get right under there. With the truck sitting level it might drain off the groove a little better but as long as you have a decent sized drain pan in place its not an issue anyway; I didn't have much to clean up when I finished.
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Assuming the 2012 is the same as the 2011, the 5.0 has a catch piece under the oil filter that will dump it down in two places -- one in front by where the filter is and one towards the back. I use a long oil drain pan lined up just right to catch them both.
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thats how ford is, they put a little catch pan in there that is useless. I change oil all day long, just get a rag and some brake cleaner and it will clean right up!
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Thanks for the responses guys.
I spent an hour this morning out under the truck just checkin things out.
I was able to get my hand under the filter to feel just how far the plastic catch pan goes. It goes a couple of inches forward of the filter and the housing it attaches to. It feels like it has a Ĺ inch to 1 inch lip all the way around to contain the oil, and then of course the drain channel in front of the pan. I was not able to detect any drain hole in the plastic pan. Iím thinkin that keeping the truck level and SLOWLY REMOVING THE FILTER will get the oil out through the drain channel and into my container on the floor.
Again, thanks for the responses. Maybe FORD changed the plastic catch pan for 2012??
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I found that with the truck level, oil came out of the front spout and rear spout of the little catch pan. If the front is up on ramps then it all goes out of the back spout. You will find the rear spout the first time you change the oil, it is tucked up in there and hard to see. Just be ready for it. I wasn't. Or put it up on ramps and pour a glass of water up there so you can see where it comes out.
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I found that with the truck level, oil came out of the front spout and rear spout of the little catch pan. If the front is up on ramps then it all goes out of the back spout. You will find the rear spout the first time you change the oil, it is tucked up in there and hard to see. Just be ready for it. I wasn't. Or put it up on ramps and pour a glass of water up there so you can see where it comes out.
M.C.

Thanks for the heads up. Excellent suggestion to pour a little water into the little pan. As I metioned earlier, I wasn't able to find the rear spout by feeling with my fingers but from your experience I believe you!! I will test with water and make sure I have a big enough catch container underneath when I do change my oil.

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The little catch pan really does help. I use ramps when changing the oil on my '11 5.0. The catch pan directs all of the oil from the filter towards the rear spout where it is very easy to catch. I am not sure how it behaves with the truck level. I like to use the ramps because I can fit a 5-gallon bucket underneath the truck which makes draining the almost two gallons of oil from the oil pan very easy.
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I just changed my oil in my 2011 5.0 for the first time. I did not use ramps. I used two pans, one for the plug and one for the filter and I did not spill a drop. I was actually very impressed, I thought it was a stupid design at first for the oil filter but the "catch pan" did an excellent job in my case of catching all the oil from the filter.
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Here's how I've been doing mine on the FX4 (I'm not sure if you have the same skid plate on the king ranch?). I put the front tires on ramps (you could jack up if you want). This helps keep oil from dripping on back onto the skid plate once the oil is almost all the way drained out. Put pan under the drain plug and drain completely, drain plug back in. Put my drain pan forward under the square cut out in the skid plate and loosen the oil filter but not remove. This allows some oil to drain out through the square hole. Once this oil stops I move the drain pan forward so that it is under the square hole and the little spout in front of the oil filter. Then quickly unscrew and tip up to keep any more from draining out of the filter. When I do this I will have oil drain out through the square and from the spout. Wait a minute or two, then dry the drain spout off with shop towels and I'm good to go. I was making a mess of the skid plate until I figured out this sequence. Now it all stays nice and clean for me.
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Just performed my first oil change this morning and I was glad no one was here to listen to my profanities about the worthless little plastic drip tray under the oil filter. What a POS! I had a 18 inch diameter catchpan, having read previous posts regarding the filter change mess. 18 inches wasn't big enough.

The oil change was performed in my shop - level concrete - and the oil came out the front, as expected, and also the rear. Total mess. I will figure out a fix and post the results. My first observation is that the rear of the tray seems a bit loose and can maybe be permanently tilted up so the tray only discharges oil from the front, like it looks like it should.
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Two words to solve the oil drain mess. Fumoto valve. Best $25 upgrade to your truck if you are going to own it for a long time and change your own oil.
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Two words to solve the oil drain mess. Fumoto valve. Best $25 upgrade to your truck if you are going to own it for a long time and change your own oil.
Those look nice, how well do they hold up overtime, such as the open close Lever???
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I have a valve on every vehicle I own. Have about 12 years of history on them and have never leaked a single drop or had one malfunction in any way. I use the ones with the nipple so I can attach a length of clear hose and run straight to my used oil container. These are aircraft quality, you wont be dissapointed.
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I have a valve on every vehicle I own. Have about 12 years of history on them and have never leaked a single drop or had one malfunction in any way. I use the ones with the nipple so I can attach a length of clear hose and run straight to my used oil container. These are aircraft quality, you wont be dissapointed.
Yeah the one w/ the nipple for a hose looks nice! God damn these forums $$$
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How is it to install on a Eco, as I know when fitting a socket on the oil drain plug is kind of a pita. Since theres a fuel line or some sort of metal tube that runs in front of mine on my 2012!
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I to have had Fumoto valves on all my cars/trucks and there isn't anything better. Never a issue, makes it much cleaner to change oil.

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