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Old 02-22-2012, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by raildog
The kem is going to be awsome.I talked to mike about the kem and he said it is a blast to drive around on the 87oc tune.Theye are a 1,000 bucks but thats what you pay for a custom badass tune.Cant waite to see the 93oc tune dyno result, he said probably 75 to 80 hp gain.
Heck yeah brosif custom tunes are killer!!!
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$1000 dollar tunes? That's crazy to me unless my truck is getting personal attention on the dyno.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Joewee3.5
$1000 dollar tunes? That's crazy to me unless my truck is getting personal attention on the dyno.
Ya it is expensive!! But maybe they can get the price to around 700 and that would be worth it!!!
Old 02-22-2012, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboFx4
Ya it is expensive!! But maybe they can get the price to around 700 and that would be worth it!!!
I don't know how people say what's worth it or not as it's all opinion. I paid $1250 for my last tuner and I thought it was well worth it. You get what you pay for.

So far my vote is KEM but I know there is more coming. Spartan is looking into it too. Thanks for the thread.
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1000-1250 is to rich for my blood even if it comes with three tunes and a display screen. I think if you already have a capable tuner 80-125 for 1 tune is ok. I don't know how much work is involved and with people like mike(5 star) buying trucks to work with some of that cost may get passed to buyers. If there are investing this much time and there own money I'm sure the results should be great.
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Originally Posted by Joewee3.5
Does the 11 sec 5.0 have an upgraded tq converter. If not then I doubt clamping force of the TC is causing the shutter. That sprayed 5.0 is putting alot more down at all rpms than a stock EB. If his isn't slipping then why should stock?
Dude, once and for all...the shudder is not going to happen at WOT and high rpms...so drag racing is not going to demonstrate any kind of shudder. Shudder is going to happen at low rpms and high torque numbers...period...if caused by a weak TC.

If an Ecoboost for instance is diplaying shudder climbing a slight incline in 6th at 1800rpm...the instant fix would be to downshift one gear ratio and apply the go pedal...or even just smash the go pedal so the TC unlocks and slips.

Now with a correct TC, you would be able to climb at low rpms without shudder and get better mpg. With a reprogrammed TCM and a correct TC, we could get TC Lockup in every gear at low rpm and get better city mpg.

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Ive had shudder happen when on tow mode with tc clutch not locked...... When launching at the dragstrip with 4hi wouldnt that be the lowest rpm with the highest possible torque but why doesnt the tc act up?
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Originally Posted by ninjatalon
Ive had shudder happen when on tow mode with tc clutch not locked...... When launching at the dragstrip with 4hi wouldnt that be the lowest rpm with the highest possible torque but why doesnt the tc act up?

No...in that instance your TC would not be locked...but instead be slipping (building heat, ect). Your rpms on a launch would quickly be greater than 1500-1800 rpms and you would still be in first gear.

Here is a great article to explain more about Autos in general. Pay close attention to the Coupling explanation. That is when the shudder is taking place if this is a TC issue. Also note the percievable increase in MPG when the turbine and pump achieve a 1:1 ratio. that is where a high torque and low rpm engine can really shine when it comes to mpg (much like torque monster diesels-ignoring the 30% higher BTU content in Diesel than Gas).

http://www.classictrucks.com/tech/08...k/viewall.html

Once you are towing something (ie heavier loading of TC) and the "coupling" reaches near 90% complete...you can induce shudder.

The lockup mechanism is very crucial to us:

http://www.classictrucks.com/tech/08.../photo_08.html

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Does anyone know what software Livernois is using for their tunes?
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Originally Posted by DieselDawg
Dude, once and for all...the shudder is not going to happen at WOT and high rpms...so drag racing is not going to demonstrate any kind of shudder. Shudder is going to happen at low rpms and high torque numbers...period...if caused by a weak TC.

If an Ecoboost for instance is diplaying shudder climbing a slight incline in 6th at 1800rpm...the instant fix would be to downshift one gear ratio and apply the go pedal...or even just smash the go pedal so the TC unlocks and slips.

Now with a correct TC, you would be able to climb at low rpms without shudder and get better mpg. With a reprogrammed TCM and a correct TC, we could get TC Lockup in every gear at low rpm and get better city mpg.

I'm still not convinced it's the TC. Mine shudders from 55-65 when it's sort of lugging in 6th. When I'm running 70+ (1900rpm+) it's smooth as can be with the converter locked going uphill or accelerating. My engine produces more torque at 70 mph than it does at 55 (locked in 6th).


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