Manuellabour247

They ran that engine hard from manufacture date. It was ran to it's full potential more often than not. But I agree with you.

NASSTY

I've run both of mine hard too. The first one was an early build 2011 and it ran awesome for the 3.5 years that I owned it and the '14 has been flawless for 11 months so far.

1point9rutbo

yeah, i couldn't see anywhere else to post on his page... unless i missed it.

as for Mak, i think he was addressing all of the questions he was getting vice trying to fear monger. that wasn't his intention

i also owned a diesel car prior to this. a jetta TDI that the EGR was notorious for fouling up the intake. it was much worse on those cars because the car was actually sucking in the soot from the exhaust through the EGR from the old school, high sulfer diesel. disabling the EGR in conjunction with the low sulfer fuel was the answer but it fouled up quick on some cars, not so much on others. I figured mine would be a lot worse than it was. purchased the car at 80k miles, cleaned the intake once at 110K miles and required removing the entire intake manifold (wasn't a huge deal on that car).

not only did you get oil from the CCV, you also got it from turbo blow-by through the seals. just happens on turbo cars including the ecoboost. even if you isolate all the crap from the CCV, your still going to have oil making its way down to the intake. I had 170k miles on my car when i finally sold it still getting high 40's, low 50's mpg on the highway.

my own personal take aways are that the engines are still going to run good (says me). on the ecoboost, your only talking about basically oil on the valves versus oil and soot. if you lose a few horsepower over the life of the engine, i think its being a little overplayed as this end times issue.

below is a video of a cleaning solution that was not VW approved either lol... the TDI engines on those cars were tanks... someone will come up with a solution to the ecoboost as well!


maybe we should actually look at some of the methods those guys were using. some did the above, some soaked in parts cleaners (what i chose), some just scraped out what they could get at. bottom line, there are some of those engines with 300k miles + that are still crushing on original turbos. grab a wrench and a beer and make a saturday of it.

Wannafbody

I wouldn't suggest doing that with a plastic intake.

papa tiger

I do believe a lot of the oil going from a leaking EB turbo travels down the exhaust pipe and settles carbonized all the way to the CAtz.

1point9rutbo

haha, yes. just saying there will be some ingenuity at some point. I soaked mine in parts cleaner.

wonder if there is a way to slowly introduce induction cleaner over say, the life of a tank of fuel? slowly clean/keep it clean as opposed to a lot all at once creating all the problems. maybe in conjunction with a tuning that could fuel the engine slightly less to compensate for the extra combustibles.

biff420

When you drop a video that isn't related to F-150's into an F-150 forum with "Warning" as the beginning of your title, your intention can be nothing but fear mongering and rabble rousing. This guy was likely fired by the Ford dealership for exactly that. He wants to claim it was his choice so he could peruse other ventures. And now he is asking for other people's money to do so. If he is so great, why is he unemployed asking for handouts?

Sorry, but any grief that people want to give the OP is well deserved IMO, especially for starting this here. There were plenty of other ways to go about conveying this kind of information but clearly the OP took the most provocative approach which ended up costing him. The tidbit about him driving a Ram is interesting as well.

1point9rutbo

I don't know, I tend to disagree. Every manufacturer, every direct injection engine is having issues. Regardless if its specific to the 150 or not, he was alerting you to the issue and advising you not to use any intake treatment until they know if it does damage or not. People tend to take the easy way out without doing their research.

I think some people are looking too far past the simple warning. As far as Ford and every other maker, you also have to realize they are under some federal regulations for certain things like the CCV and EGR... whether they do what they think they do or not. I think most engineers would want to simply keep it simple without all of these accessories on the engine. I don't believe they are adding these things to intentionally cause problems or to make it so they can make money off you in the future. As for him in the Ram, just because I like Smith and Wesson doesn't mean I'll never be seen shooting anything else. Ram makes a fantastic product too. When I was in the market, I didn't want to pay the new truck price especially given the amount of miles I drive per year. To me, the numbers did not make sense. The Ram diesel was my first choice too initially. I would have been very happy in that truck too, I imagine.

My dad and brother own VWs and there is no quick induction service approved for them either probably for the same reasons the video stated; there is no place for the extra heat to go besides destroying turbos and cats. The service they offer is manual cleaning.

I had my PCM updated this morning at the dealer. No issues, simply said I was exploring aftermarket tuning and its recommended to have the latest software before doing so, which is not a lie at all. You will pay the shop fee, about 105 bucks. I notice some suttle but good differences with the new flash. Biggest is the low RPM. You used to have to push the pedal down a decent amount to get it to downshift before you accelerate. It is much faster now and that shift is faster... so, you don't get that lag and deceleration before you accelerate.

Kit Sullivan

I am a tribologist, and a member of the STLE, and the SAE. A chemical company that I consult for on occasion has been working on an intake cleaner specifically designed for turbo DI engines.
It is a tricky challenge to come up with a combo of ingredients that is "hot" enough to actually clean a dry carbonized intake valve without utilizing any abrading while still being safe enough to do no damage to the turbos downstream.
They have finally come up with the DI induction cleaner, and it is safe and effective.
It has been tested on several EB F150s without issue, and is particularly effective on the 2.0 EB in the Escape ( the most problematic of all EB engines regarding carbonized intake valves). Dozens of trials on thr 2.0 with no issues.

12ecoplt

What are your thoughts on the use of a catch can, with these eco engines. I have somewhat researched them and am considering adding that to mine. I see that it is not a complete answer for the cleaning of the system but looks like this can cut down significantly the debris getting to the turbos.