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Old 05-20-2014, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jcain
Cleary, if you KNEW what you think you've known all along, you'd know that the engines of the past (non DI) don't suffer the same fate as a DI engine does.

I do not agree that seamfoam hurts the turbos though.
Not sure exactly what in the hell you just said there.

I also agree, those deposit cleaning substances do not hurt the turbos.
Old 05-20-2014, 10:33 PM
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Would love to know more about the carboned up Explorer. How many miles? Drive cycle? Maintenance, etc. Cause that is the first many of us have heard of issues and the 2.0 has been out far less time than the 3.5.

Not sure on the cleaning causing turbo failures - maybe the Seafoam type stuff can - I can imagine broken pieces of carbon and/or extra residue flying into a turbo spinning at a couple hundred thousand RPM's wouldn't end well. But I'd think those events would be rather rare.
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I had a 2012 FX2 with the 3.5EB which I've already talked about. Then I had a 2013 Escape Titanium with a 2.0 EB. The engine seemed fine initially, but on a few occasions when attempting to merge onto the highway, the gas pedal was planted to the floor and the engine just fell flat. It was just coasting in the merge lane for about 15-20 seconds before the power was restored.

The drivers on the highway who had given me space to merge onto the highway weren't too pleased and it was very disconcerting that I was experiencing this. The Escape was returned as well and I ended up with the 2014 non EB truck I have now.

I believe the gentleman in the video had also stated that there are issues with the Turbo overheating. I believe some European cars in years back had a water jacket surrounding the turbo's to cool them down. But I will never go back to the Ecoboost after what I experienced with the 2012 F150 and the 2013 Escape
Old 05-20-2014, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mcfarmall
So from what I gathered from the video, the problem is doing an "induction" cleaning right?
No what he said in the video was he talked to ford about a engine with cold start, cuz fuel is more, so bore scope, carbon valve will kill turbo after more fuel for not normal cuz carbon.... Induction service.

thats what I got out of it.
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So the carbon is building up from the combustion process itself, as evident by way of the sooty tail pipes. This must mean more carbon is created during combustion than blow-by reentering the system. I thought ford used a reversion process to spay fuel over the intake valves on the exhaust stroke, thus keeping the valves somewhat clean.

Hell sounds just like my 6.0 diesel. I will just get the little ecoboost up to temperature and work the turbos. Blow all that carbon out, just like on the 6.0. Ford will figure something out. I can remember the early days of the 6.0 when Ford had no idea what was going on with that motor. Then once enough failures happened, they found the weak spots. Now there is an upgraded OEM part for each weakness.

Oh, and it looks like letting the truck warm up for long periods is not good. Need to get the engine up to temp to get the fuel maps out of warm up stage...
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Originally Posted by snobdds

Oh, and it looks like letting the truck warm up for long periods is not good. Need to get the engine up to temp to get the fuel maps out of warm up stage...
Bingo! Long term idling is bad for any engine. The quickest way to warm an engine is to drive it gently.
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It's not just Ford either. Vw has had carbon build up problems. My buddy has a vw gti and vw tells them they are to soft on them over in Germany they never have this many issues with the cars we are all just to soft on them.
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Originally Posted by coley909
It's not just Ford either. Vw has had carbon build up problems. My buddy has a vw gti and vw tells them they are to soft on them over in Germany they never have this many issues with the cars we are all just to soft on them.
Well, crap! I have been babying mine and have my 70 mile daily commute mileage over 21 mpg now. Now you say I need to run it hard.
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I am not even sure what that video was saying......

dirty intake valves cause a rich burn? hmmmmmm

Treatments like B&G and Seafoam cause "extra fuel" that the cyldiner can't burn, which in in turn heats up the turbos.........

BMW or whoever "Jerking around with DI"?

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Originally Posted by SkiSmuggs
Well, crap! I have been babying mine and have my 70 mile daily commute mileage over 21 mpg now. Now you say I need to run it hard.
Just be prepared for poor fuel economy by running it hard all the time.
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