varithms

I was reading this and thinking what a joke. With all the emissions crap and urea injection no thanks. What is going to be the extra cost? Why does it not make 500+lbs/tq? Good luck with that dodge. 250hp/440tq.

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php...s-in-late-2013

jcain

it makes more tq... tq moves fat pigs like trucks. i'll wait till we can see a dyno. if its got tq from idle to redline it'll stomp an eco

Speedfreak

Those look like the same numbers that dodge put out for their V10.

Commander316

they should put that in a Dakota

varithms

I wonder if the 3.7L could handle being a ecoboost. The extra cubes might make up the difference. The eight speed transmission is the other factor to deal with.

Here diesel is 4.11 a gallon vs gas at 3.88. Its going to be a hard sell. Plus it is going to be a expensive option.

jcain

meh... it's more than just cubes when it comes to FI. it's a very choreographed medoly of perfectly sized components.

engineermike

365hp/420ftlb will embarrass 250hp/440ftlb in a race and towing. And with -115 hp and only +1 mpg, no thanks.

Anyway, I think the Ecoboost probably prompted Chrysler to do something different with the 1/2 ton. They've been contemplating diesels in 1/2 tons for years, but it took a twin turbo 6 to finally taunt them into doing it.

jcain

Not if the extra two gears are mathematically beneficial.

I'll take my 400/1520 cat over a 650/1200 cummins any day of the week, twice on Sundays. ***** are *****.

engineermike

No need to add cubes to get 20 ft-lb. One psi boost, a tweak to the cam, a little timing, or a throttle blade that actually opens all the way would get there for much less investment.

engineermike

You could add 10 extra gears and it still wouldn't give you +115 hp.