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Old 04-06-2013, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sluggo1
Recently getting DTC of P160a when swapping tunes. Researched and can't get clear definition or reason. If Rick it anyone else can answer or clarify the issue please let me know. It clears it with no problem but then shows up again next time I swap tunes. Truck seems to be running fine. Should I have any concerns. Thanks
Thought I could help, sorry I can't. I sure Rick will respond when he's online.

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Old 04-06-2013, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sluggo1
Recently getting DTC of P160a when swapping tunes. Researched and can't get clear definition or reason. If Rick it anyone else can answer or clarify the issue please let me know. It clears it with no problem but then shows up again next time I swap tunes. Truck seems to be running fine. Should I have any concerns. Thanks
P160A - Control Module Vehicle Options Reconfiguration Error
Description:
This DTC sets when the PCM detects a mismatch in configuration data and programmable
parameters between the PCM and BCM.

Possible Causes:
• Module reprogramming


Aftermarket performance products


PCM

Diagnostic Aids:
Reprogram or update the calibration. If the PCM already has the latest calibration, carry out
the relearn vehicle data procedure on the scan tool. Check for other DTCs or drive
symptoms for further action. Make sure to check for aftermarket performance products before
installing a new PCM. If it is necessary to install a new PCM, refer to Section 2, Flash
Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory (EEPROM), Programming the VID
Block for a replacement PCM.

Application Key On Engine Off Key On Engine Running Continuous Memory
All Refer to the Description, Possible Causes and Diagnostic Aids for the DTC.
Old 04-06-2013, 06:52 PM
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Thanks very much for the information. Now if someone can break that down into regular joe terms for me I would appreciate it.
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Well thought I would post my latest results. Ran some 700 miles Wednesday &Thursday. 2012 F150 FX4 Leveled 91 tow tune with new Mickey Thompson 305/55/20's ATZ. Ran steady 72-75mph on 93 octane. No trailer or additional weight. Average fuel mileage was 15.1mpg.
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Originally Posted by gensupt
Well thought I would post my latest results. Ran some 700 miles Wednesday &Thursday. 2012 F150 FX4 Leveled 91 tow tune with new Mickey Thompson 305/55/20's ATZ. Ran steady 72-75mph on 93 octane. No trailer or additional weight. Average fuel mileage was 15.1mpg.
What engine & gears?
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Oops I guess that would be important. Ecoboost with 3:73 gears
Old 04-08-2013, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sluggo1
Recently getting DTC of P160a when swapping tunes. Researched and can't get clear definition or reason. If Rick it anyone else can answer or clarify the issue please let me know. It clears it with no problem but then shows up again next time I swap tunes. Truck seems to be running fine. Should I have any concerns. Thanks
Rick any info to share on this when you have time? Thanks
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It is just a temporary error caused sometimes by connecting the tuner. I just clear the DTC, upload the tune and don't give it another thought.
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Originally Posted by SkiSmuggs
It is just a temporary error caused sometimes by connecting the tuner. I just clear the DTC, upload the tune and don't give it another thought.
Ok good to know. Thanks ski
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Default LMS Tunes LOADED!

Well, after missing the FedEx guy Friday when he came to my house to deliver my tuner from LMS (people aren't home during the day imagine that?) I decided to have the local FedEx store hold it for me. I save you the story, but I didn't get to go pick it up till Sunday.

First thing I did was load the 87 Tow Tune. I drove home with barely any playing. Not impressed. Monday, I drive around for work so I had a little time to check it out. I'm surprised, but I didn't like the way the Tow tune drove. I used to leave my F150 5.4l with the Edge Evo in tow all the time because I liked the way it drove. This 87 tow tune seemed like power came later in the rpm range and it felt like it hit all at once. I will give it another try soon since I need to use my trailer a few times soon.

Now, I haven't tried the 93 Perf. Tune cause I had 87 in the tank, but.... the 87 Perf. Tune is fun! The truck drives smoother in normal driving compared to the tow tune I thought. During normal operation I only noticed the shifts were firmer and quicker. Not a bad thing, but I really would only want that above 50% throttle input. Not a complaint since I can't compare it.

So, today I finally had some closed roads to try out the tune. I never once got above 2nd gear during hard acceleration because I wanted to try some launches to see how it felt. One word...Impressed. I did a multiple 2WD launches at varying RPMs below 2,000 (above this it would start to power brake). Fun but too much wheel spin and the rear would hop too much after a few feet. BUT... I did just 2 4WD launches to compare and it is WAAAAAY better. I would literally throw my head back into the headrest launching at 2,000-2,400 RPM's at take off.

During the first one I think I peed a little...

Is the 93 v2 Perf. Tune really that much better? Is it worth the extra fuel cost?

Also the first time I got on it with the 87 perf. tune I was on the on-ramp and I was WOT. I chirped 2nd gear. I didn't think that would happen in dry conditions.

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