vailguy

Thanks guys, I know the plugs have just been done. I will look into whether the updates have been done as well. CAC I am not familiar with but will do my research. thanks Guys, I love not spending money on snake oil! I take delivery in two days, the dealer even agree to let me swap out my HID projector mods from my last truck!!!

BTW If anyone is looking for a Solid 09 SCAB FX4 5.4L, 56K, Corsa exhaust, LineX, 2011 FX4 alloys in Colorado. I tell which dealer it will be at.

vailguy

Ha! our other vehicle is a yukon denali, but that is for another board.

SkiSmuggs

The 2011/12 often run better than the 13/14 EB. Beware of condensation TSBs as the cure was often worse than the problem which was usually bad spark plugs or way out of gap.
So, synthetic oil changed at least every 7500 miles, spark plugs gapped at .028 (tuned) or .030 stock, plug change every 30,000 miles and occasionally drive it like you stole it. You should be good. The oil life meter defaults to 10k if set at 100%, so I reset to 70% after each oil change. I would by a case of Mobil 1 5w-30 and have the dealer use that.

Cord

In all honesty Ford has most of the problems worked out. I just wish they'd get on top of the timing chain problem.

phantomblackgto

Catch cans are not snake oil. A well designed properly working catch can provides several benefits. There are haters and there are others who recognize the benefits. Tuner was passionate, but did tend to go overboard at times, and combined with the catch can wars, turned a lot of people off. I'm a believer. I run an Rx dual valve on my Eco and immediately saw about a 1 mpg increase. It also cured the fuel in oil issues I was having. I feel the cost savings will eventually pay for itself. I run Elite Engineering cans on my DI LLT V6 and LS2. It's all a personal choice. If the truck has 97K miles on it and runs strong, you might be better served to just wait and do a top end cleaning if you start having any issues. Hopefully, Ford will have an approved cleaning process by then.

The Eco is a strong little motor that can really be opened up with just a tune. 5* perf/tow tunes are not the most potent tunes out there, but they will still wake it up and provide much better shifting and drivability without pushing the limits. Good luck with the truck. I think you will enjoy it's capabilities.

jwanck11

Install a catch can. UPR double-sided is probably your best bet. I took enough material out of the can over the 30K I had the engine to absolutely warrant having one installed.

Install an aftermarket CAC. aFE has one that integrates a weep hole.

Consider a 170* T-stat that will allow your engine to run cooler.

Use a quality synthetic oil and do a couple of successive Blackstone reports to see what is going on. I used Mobil 1 and my reports were always excellent.

I would think twice before tuning given the mileage already on the truck. If you are going to tune, visit the tuner's site(s) and for the love of all things good, do NOT listen to people here or especially on f150.net - too much drama and too little actual experiential fact to inform rational decisioning.

You cannot turn back the clock, but you can maintain going forward.

BTW - Congrats on the new truck!! The EB is an awesome engine and I too had the FX4 package which I loved.

itguy08

I'm not going to rehash what we all debated last year but the benefits are mainly lightening your wallet and adding another maintenance item.

I've got the MPG data and according to Tuner, over 84k my SHO should have been a scrap heap by now and experienced declining MPG ever since new. Yet my mileage is consistent from day 1.

Improved "performance" was another claimed benefit. Yet, despite lots of asking, dyno runs were never provided. That is telling as he owns a speed shop and has access to dynos and vehicles. Wonder why that is?

They are also claimed to reduce deposits. Yet those that need them the most (VW/Audi/BMW) are starting to see that that benefit is 0 too.

With the MPG wars and CAFE, if Ford could pick up 1MPG simply by a can they would put one in and a huge tank. Like DEF, you'd empty it at every change into the waste oil and if it got full the truck would go into limp mode. Yet they don't.

As far as solving other issues, maybe, maybe not. It sure could mask them.

In the end it's up to each individual to decide what they are comfortable with.

phantomblackgto

I have the data to back up the mpg gain. It happened immediately. 0.7 mpg increase the first tank and 0.3 mpg better than that on the second tank. It stayed consistent there all summer and fall until we hit winter blend when it went south. I also know what my oil smelled like pre and post can install. It couldn't have been good for the lubricating properties of the oil. The stuff the can catches smells strong of fuel. And, my oil doesn't anymore. I won't even go into the carboned valves or oil/water ingestion into the turbo/CAC debate. Like I said, there are haters and there are the guys who have experienced the benefits. I just happen to be in the latter group. "That is all I have to say about that." FG

itguy08

If your oil smells that bad you may have a leaky HPFP. Given that you have a 2013 and we saw a bunch of those leaking last winter it may be wise to get it checked out if for no other reason than to make sure it's not headed south.

phantomblackgto

I don't think it's the HPFP. Mine was a late 2013, built 9/30/2013. Most of the HPFP issues were earlier 2013's. There are too many out there that have a fuel smell in the oil to all be pump issues. If it was a pump issue, I don't think the can would have solved the issue. I'm pretty sure it's just a DI issue. My Camaro was the same before I put a can on it, and I've seen the same result with it. Stuff in the can has a strong fuel odor, but the oil no longer does.

Personally, with the fuel dilution issues and the longer recommended OCI's, I think this could be contributing to some of the timing chain issues. I still only go 4K OCI's even though I don't smell any fuel in the oil anymore.