MAJOR Ecoboost Acceleration PROBLEMS-URGENT code P2112
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MAJOR Ecoboost Acceleration PROBLEMS-URGENT code P2112
2013 F150 ecoboost power loss, engine shudder, CEL, wrench
Looking for help ASAP
About a month ago I had very similar symptoms to some other posts but I don't think anyone hit on my specific problem.
Truck info-
2013 F150 supercrew 3.5L ecoboost 4x4 XLT with the 3.55 rear end
about 70,000 miles total- mostly highway, about 20k miles towing
I have the ESP warranty to 125,000 miles? +/-
In November, I stopped at walmart to buy oil for a weekend oil change.
Truck restarted hard.
VERY rough idle, service engine "wrench" light, CEL came on - truck could barely stay running.
We towed on my flatbed to the dealer- after several days & lots of tests, they found a bunch of CEL relating to the turbo, throttle, etc (I don't have the slip with me)
Result- they replaced throttle body & reset codes.
Truck seemed fine.
$100 deductible on ESP
December, maybe 10,000 miles since last service in November +/- (lots of highway road trips)
I'm on a cross-country road trip NY- Cali with a little airstream trailer, 18ft 3500lb trailer.
Truck dies on US interstate 80 near Chicago on a Sunday afternoon.
Similar problems-
Power loss, CEL, service engine "wrench" light
NEED HELP ASAP -
I'm missing out on Christmas with my family because they can't fix it.
Day 1
Dealership reset codes, did a PCM reprogram, charged $170
Hooked up, drove off- same problem as soon as I got to highway ramp
No CEL lights, but "wrench" light came on and I lost power.
Truck re-starts & drives fine back to dealership
Day 2
Dealership called the hotline, continuity tested and load tested the harnesses from computer to the throttle body- checked & replaced some chips, wires, wire harness. Road tested without trailer about 50 miles. Seemed ok. Truck seemed fine.
$100 deductible on ESP
Hooked up, drove off- same problem about 1-2 miles from the dealer - I didn't even get to the highway.
No CEL lights, but "wrench" light came on and I lost power.
Truck re-starts & drives fine back to the dealer.
NEED HELP!!
Day 3 - dealer is closed for Christmas Eve & Christmas.
I drove another 10-20 miles around empty to try and reproduce the problem- no CEL, no "wrench" lights
Dealer asks me to check back after Christmas.
Dealer closes- I get 3 consecutive "wrench" MIL and a CEL with code P2112 that evening.
Now I'm stuck in Indiana for at least 2-3 days over Christmas
Day 4, Christmas Eve-
I pulled the engine cover off and googled a "how to change ecoboost spark plugs" from the parking lot of an auto zone.
Went pretty smooth - I did it in the autozone lot as I was looking for immediate feedback about my loss of power situation in about 45 minutes as it's going to snow 3-6 inches tomorrow.
6 new plugs with a 0.030 gap.
never seize on the threads.
di-electric grease on the connection.
Drove out of the lot and had a "wrench" service engine light within 1/4 mile.
Day 5-
Dealer can't replicate MIL or P2112 codes even after driving.
I can't replicate issues.
I leave at 10am and successfully make it 700 miles to Lincoln Nebraska
Day 6
Start at 7am in light snow, very cold (7 degrees F).
Drive about 350 miles across Nebraska-
Same problems all over again- "wrench" MIL, CEL P2112, truck loses power, stalls on highway.
I limp into Ogallala NE - ford mechanic pulls P2112 code.
Checks it on his laptop, clears the code.
We go for a quick shakedown ride to replicate- it's not a "hard fault" and doesn't stay locked in/ and re-enable at restart.
Truck throws a new code within 1000 feet out the dealer lot.
Now I'm stuck waiting over a weekend at a very small-town dealer who barely has mechanics to service his own customers- let alone my month long issues.
NEED HELP!!
I have a Mechanical Engineering degree and not real thrilled about the "check/ change" component poke & hope fixes- seems good then fails.
Has anyone else had a similar problem?
Any other leads for them to check out?
I have some thoughts that it could be a bad throttle body again (this one is nearly new- only 10k miles- 50/50 hwy and towing) throttle position sensor, wiring, connection or similar. Maybe even bad fuel or fuel filter.
I aslo welcome any advice from Ford Engineers or Techs who may be familiar or can give specific advice
Thanks
Looking for help ASAP
About a month ago I had very similar symptoms to some other posts but I don't think anyone hit on my specific problem.
Truck info-
2013 F150 supercrew 3.5L ecoboost 4x4 XLT with the 3.55 rear end
about 70,000 miles total- mostly highway, about 20k miles towing
I have the ESP warranty to 125,000 miles? +/-
In November, I stopped at walmart to buy oil for a weekend oil change.
Truck restarted hard.
VERY rough idle, service engine "wrench" light, CEL came on - truck could barely stay running.
We towed on my flatbed to the dealer- after several days & lots of tests, they found a bunch of CEL relating to the turbo, throttle, etc (I don't have the slip with me)
Result- they replaced throttle body & reset codes.
Truck seemed fine.
$100 deductible on ESP
December, maybe 10,000 miles since last service in November +/- (lots of highway road trips)
I'm on a cross-country road trip NY- Cali with a little airstream trailer, 18ft 3500lb trailer.
Truck dies on US interstate 80 near Chicago on a Sunday afternoon.
Similar problems-
Power loss, CEL, service engine "wrench" light
NEED HELP ASAP -
I'm missing out on Christmas with my family because they can't fix it.
Day 1
Dealership reset codes, did a PCM reprogram, charged $170
Hooked up, drove off- same problem as soon as I got to highway ramp
No CEL lights, but "wrench" light came on and I lost power.
Truck re-starts & drives fine back to dealership
Day 2
Dealership called the hotline, continuity tested and load tested the harnesses from computer to the throttle body- checked & replaced some chips, wires, wire harness. Road tested without trailer about 50 miles. Seemed ok. Truck seemed fine.
$100 deductible on ESP
Hooked up, drove off- same problem about 1-2 miles from the dealer - I didn't even get to the highway.
No CEL lights, but "wrench" light came on and I lost power.
Truck re-starts & drives fine back to the dealer.
NEED HELP!!
Day 3 - dealer is closed for Christmas Eve & Christmas.
I drove another 10-20 miles around empty to try and reproduce the problem- no CEL, no "wrench" lights
Dealer asks me to check back after Christmas.
Dealer closes- I get 3 consecutive "wrench" MIL and a CEL with code P2112 that evening.
Now I'm stuck in Indiana for at least 2-3 days over Christmas
Day 4, Christmas Eve-
I pulled the engine cover off and googled a "how to change ecoboost spark plugs" from the parking lot of an auto zone.
Went pretty smooth - I did it in the autozone lot as I was looking for immediate feedback about my loss of power situation in about 45 minutes as it's going to snow 3-6 inches tomorrow.
6 new plugs with a 0.030 gap.
never seize on the threads.
di-electric grease on the connection.
Drove out of the lot and had a "wrench" service engine light within 1/4 mile.
Day 5-
Dealer can't replicate MIL or P2112 codes even after driving.
I can't replicate issues.
I leave at 10am and successfully make it 700 miles to Lincoln Nebraska
Day 6
Start at 7am in light snow, very cold (7 degrees F).
Drive about 350 miles across Nebraska-
Same problems all over again- "wrench" MIL, CEL P2112, truck loses power, stalls on highway.
I limp into Ogallala NE - ford mechanic pulls P2112 code.
Checks it on his laptop, clears the code.
We go for a quick shakedown ride to replicate- it's not a "hard fault" and doesn't stay locked in/ and re-enable at restart.
Truck throws a new code within 1000 feet out the dealer lot.
Now I'm stuck waiting over a weekend at a very small-town dealer who barely has mechanics to service his own customers- let alone my month long issues.
NEED HELP!!
I have a Mechanical Engineering degree and not real thrilled about the "check/ change" component poke & hope fixes- seems good then fails.
Has anyone else had a similar problem?
Any other leads for them to check out?
I have some thoughts that it could be a bad throttle body again (this one is nearly new- only 10k miles- 50/50 hwy and towing) throttle position sensor, wiring, connection or similar. Maybe even bad fuel or fuel filter.
I aslo welcome any advice from Ford Engineers or Techs who may be familiar or can give specific advice
Thanks
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#5
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Check all wiring associated with turbos and boost control module. Low voltage will trigger code, wrench, and cel. Good luck.
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2013 F150 ecoboost power loss, engine shudder, CEL, wrench
Looking for help ASAP
About a month ago I had very similar symptoms to some other posts but I don't think anyone hit on my specific problem.
Truck info-
2013 F150 supercrew 3.5L ecoboost 4x4 XLT with the 3.55 rear end
about 70,000 miles total- mostly highway, about 20k miles towing
I have the ESP warranty to 125,000 miles? +/-
In November, I stopped at walmart to buy oil for a weekend oil change.
Truck restarted hard.
VERY rough idle, service engine "wrench" light, CEL came on - truck could barely stay running.
We towed on my flatbed to the dealer- after several days & lots of tests, they found a bunch of CEL relating to the turbo, throttle, etc (I don't have the slip with me)
Result- they replaced throttle body & reset codes.
Truck seemed fine.
$100 deductible on ESP
December, maybe 10,000 miles since last service in November +/- (lots of highway road trips)
I'm on a cross-country road trip NY- Cali with a little airstream trailer, 18ft 3500lb trailer.
Truck dies on US interstate 80 near Chicago on a Sunday afternoon.
Similar problems-
Power loss, CEL, service engine "wrench" light
NEED HELP ASAP -
I'm missing out on Christmas with my family because they can't fix it.
Day 1
Dealership reset codes, did a PCM reprogram, charged $170
Hooked up, drove off- same problem as soon as I got to highway ramp
No CEL lights, but "wrench" light came on and I lost power.
Truck re-starts & drives fine back to dealership
Day 2
Dealership called the hotline, continuity tested and load tested the harnesses from computer to the throttle body- checked & replaced some chips, wires, wire harness. Road tested without trailer about 50 miles. Seemed ok. Truck seemed fine.
$100 deductible on ESP
Hooked up, drove off- same problem about 1-2 miles from the dealer - I didn't even get to the highway.
No CEL lights, but "wrench" light came on and I lost power.
Truck re-starts & drives fine back to the dealer.
NEED HELP!!
Day 3 - dealer is closed for Christmas Eve & Christmas.
I drove another 10-20 miles around empty to try and reproduce the problem- no CEL, no "wrench" lights
Dealer asks me to check back after Christmas.
Dealer closes- I get 3 consecutive "wrench" MIL and a CEL with code P2112 that evening.
Now I'm stuck in Indiana for at least 2-3 days over Christmas
Day 4, Christmas Eve-
I pulled the engine cover off and googled a "how to change ecoboost spark plugs" from the parking lot of an auto zone.
Went pretty smooth - I did it in the autozone lot as I was looking for immediate feedback about my loss of power situation in about 45 minutes as it's going to snow 3-6 inches tomorrow.
6 new plugs with a 0.030 gap.
never seize on the threads.
di-electric grease on the connection.
Drove out of the lot and had a "wrench" service engine light within 1/4 mile.
Day 5-
Dealer can't replicate MIL or P2112 codes even after driving.
I can't replicate issues.
I leave at 10am and successfully make it 700 miles to Lincoln Nebraska
Day 6
Start at 7am in light snow, very cold (7 degrees F).
Drive about 350 miles across Nebraska-
Same problems all over again- "wrench" MIL, CEL P2112, truck loses power, stalls on highway.
I limp into Ogallala NE - ford mechanic pulls P2112 code.
Checks it on his laptop, clears the code.
We go for a quick shakedown ride to replicate- it's not a "hard fault" and doesn't stay locked in/ and re-enable at restart.
Truck throws a new code within 1000 feet out the dealer lot.
Now I'm stuck waiting over a weekend at a very small-town dealer who barely has mechanics to service his own customers- let alone my month long issues.
NEED HELP!!
I have a Mechanical Engineering degree and not real thrilled about the "check/ change" component poke & hope fixes- seems good then fails.
Has anyone else had a similar problem?
Any other leads for them to check out?
I have some thoughts that it could be a bad throttle body again (this one is nearly new- only 10k miles- 50/50 hwy and towing) throttle position sensor, wiring, connection or similar. Maybe even bad fuel or fuel filter.
I aslo welcome any advice from Ford Engineers or Techs who may be familiar or can give specific advice
Thanks
Looking for help ASAP
About a month ago I had very similar symptoms to some other posts but I don't think anyone hit on my specific problem.
Truck info-
2013 F150 supercrew 3.5L ecoboost 4x4 XLT with the 3.55 rear end
about 70,000 miles total- mostly highway, about 20k miles towing
I have the ESP warranty to 125,000 miles? +/-
In November, I stopped at walmart to buy oil for a weekend oil change.
Truck restarted hard.
VERY rough idle, service engine "wrench" light, CEL came on - truck could barely stay running.
We towed on my flatbed to the dealer- after several days & lots of tests, they found a bunch of CEL relating to the turbo, throttle, etc (I don't have the slip with me)
Result- they replaced throttle body & reset codes.
Truck seemed fine.
$100 deductible on ESP
December, maybe 10,000 miles since last service in November +/- (lots of highway road trips)
I'm on a cross-country road trip NY- Cali with a little airstream trailer, 18ft 3500lb trailer.
Truck dies on US interstate 80 near Chicago on a Sunday afternoon.
Similar problems-
Power loss, CEL, service engine "wrench" light
NEED HELP ASAP -
I'm missing out on Christmas with my family because they can't fix it.
Day 1
Dealership reset codes, did a PCM reprogram, charged $170
Hooked up, drove off- same problem as soon as I got to highway ramp
No CEL lights, but "wrench" light came on and I lost power.
Truck re-starts & drives fine back to dealership
Day 2
Dealership called the hotline, continuity tested and load tested the harnesses from computer to the throttle body- checked & replaced some chips, wires, wire harness. Road tested without trailer about 50 miles. Seemed ok. Truck seemed fine.
$100 deductible on ESP
Hooked up, drove off- same problem about 1-2 miles from the dealer - I didn't even get to the highway.
No CEL lights, but "wrench" light came on and I lost power.
Truck re-starts & drives fine back to the dealer.
NEED HELP!!
Day 3 - dealer is closed for Christmas Eve & Christmas.
I drove another 10-20 miles around empty to try and reproduce the problem- no CEL, no "wrench" lights
Dealer asks me to check back after Christmas.
Dealer closes- I get 3 consecutive "wrench" MIL and a CEL with code P2112 that evening.
Now I'm stuck in Indiana for at least 2-3 days over Christmas
Day 4, Christmas Eve-
I pulled the engine cover off and googled a "how to change ecoboost spark plugs" from the parking lot of an auto zone.
Went pretty smooth - I did it in the autozone lot as I was looking for immediate feedback about my loss of power situation in about 45 minutes as it's going to snow 3-6 inches tomorrow.
6 new plugs with a 0.030 gap.
never seize on the threads.
di-electric grease on the connection.
Drove out of the lot and had a "wrench" service engine light within 1/4 mile.
Day 5-
Dealer can't replicate MIL or P2112 codes even after driving.
I can't replicate issues.
I leave at 10am and successfully make it 700 miles to Lincoln Nebraska
Day 6
Start at 7am in light snow, very cold (7 degrees F).
Drive about 350 miles across Nebraska-
Same problems all over again- "wrench" MIL, CEL P2112, truck loses power, stalls on highway.
I limp into Ogallala NE - ford mechanic pulls P2112 code.
Checks it on his laptop, clears the code.
We go for a quick shakedown ride to replicate- it's not a "hard fault" and doesn't stay locked in/ and re-enable at restart.
Truck throws a new code within 1000 feet out the dealer lot.
Now I'm stuck waiting over a weekend at a very small-town dealer who barely has mechanics to service his own customers- let alone my month long issues.
NEED HELP!!
I have a Mechanical Engineering degree and not real thrilled about the "check/ change" component poke & hope fixes- seems good then fails.
Has anyone else had a similar problem?
Any other leads for them to check out?
I have some thoughts that it could be a bad throttle body again (this one is nearly new- only 10k miles- 50/50 hwy and towing) throttle position sensor, wiring, connection or similar. Maybe even bad fuel or fuel filter.
I aslo welcome any advice from Ford Engineers or Techs who may be familiar or can give specific advice
Thanks
Brittany
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Thread Starter
that didn't go well P2112
That didn't go well.
The new computer came in at about 2.15pm MST this afternoon.
They installed a new computer & reflashed/ re-programmed today.
The mechanic test-drove, service manager test-drove, I test drove.
About 100 miles between the 3 of us.
I bought a very late lunch at about 3.30pm & re-hooked my trailer.
Truck stalled out immediately as I turned out of their lot.
3 more "wrench", and check engine lights as I circled back.
We connected the computer and found the fault only showed up "under load"
They finally agreed that the replacement throttle body with about 10k miles has failed/ out of spec.
It was only 1% out of spec when empty and would rarely trigger a "wrench" or CEL code.
Under load with a small trailer (bumper airstream trailer - 16ft 3500# trailer) - wrench/ CEL is almost immediate.
Throttle body fails by 15-20% out of spec.
Example-
Desired input is 46 degree angle
Response is about 25-30 degree angle hence 16-21 degrees off the desired angle.
(if you're unfamiliar- think about angle of tilt for air intake. 0 degrees is closed, 90 degrees is full open, wide open throttle WOT)
They are stripping a part of a new truck tomorrow because of the New Year and they want to get me fixed and out of their shop.
(I want to get out of Nebraska - nothing against this place - just not where I'm supposed to be right now)
I'm meeting them at 7.45am.
We'll test-drive with the laptop hooked up and trailer hooked.
1 more "wrench" / CEL as I went back to the hotel for the 4th night.
Please, please, please be the right fix.
The new computer came in at about 2.15pm MST this afternoon.
They installed a new computer & reflashed/ re-programmed today.
The mechanic test-drove, service manager test-drove, I test drove.
About 100 miles between the 3 of us.
I bought a very late lunch at about 3.30pm & re-hooked my trailer.
Truck stalled out immediately as I turned out of their lot.
3 more "wrench", and check engine lights as I circled back.
We connected the computer and found the fault only showed up "under load"
They finally agreed that the replacement throttle body with about 10k miles has failed/ out of spec.
It was only 1% out of spec when empty and would rarely trigger a "wrench" or CEL code.
Under load with a small trailer (bumper airstream trailer - 16ft 3500# trailer) - wrench/ CEL is almost immediate.
Throttle body fails by 15-20% out of spec.
Example-
Desired input is 46 degree angle
Response is about 25-30 degree angle hence 16-21 degrees off the desired angle.
(if you're unfamiliar- think about angle of tilt for air intake. 0 degrees is closed, 90 degrees is full open, wide open throttle WOT)
They are stripping a part of a new truck tomorrow because of the New Year and they want to get me fixed and out of their shop.
(I want to get out of Nebraska - nothing against this place - just not where I'm supposed to be right now)
I'm meeting them at 7.45am.
We'll test-drive with the laptop hooked up and trailer hooked.
1 more "wrench" / CEL as I went back to the hotel for the 4th night.
Please, please, please be the right fix.
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Dealer sounds pretty good! Hope it works for you
#9
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Any updates? Seems like a pain but at least the dealership seems more than willing to help you.