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Old 05-15-2014, 03:41 PM
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Recently we've had the question come up a couple of times of whether or not upgraded rods and pistons are necessary for the 3.5L Ecoboost, here are a couple of photos of an engine that was sent to us for upgrading after suffering a failure. This was a rather high output engine with tune, turbos, etc. As the pictures show, there is a power limit to what the stock parts will handle before failure.

From examining the pistons, rings and bearings there are no signs of this failure being related to detonation or fuel. At power levels above 400WHP you start to get into a territory where the parts are near their outer limits, Beyond 450WHP you get into the territory where it's just a matter of when, not if, the stock rods and pistons will have a failure, because of this a piston and rod upgrade become practically a necessity in order to avoid eventual catastrophic engine failure. Again, while you could probably get away with running the stock bottom end near the 450WHP level, it's only a matter of time before the parts will catastrophically fail.

Below is some information on our Ecoboost piston and rod upgrade. We also offer an Ecoboost head stud kit as well that replaces the factory bolts with upgraded studs. This stud kit allows for greater clamping force to keep the cylinder heads in place under high loads typical of modified Ecoboost engines.

LIVERNOIS MOTORSPORTS AND ENGINEERING ECOBOOST PISTON AND ROD COMBO


Livernois Motorsports Exclusive EcoBoost Connecting Rods

I Beam design
4340 Billet Material
ARP 2000 Rod Bolts
Compatible with factory style bearings and crankshaft (must verify clearances)
Requires no modifications to work, just balance, and machine for proper clearances

Livernois Motorsports Exclusive EcoBoost Pistons
2618 Forged Material
Thicker crown and skirt for increased power capacity
Improved ring land design for better durability
Production compression ratio standard (can custom order in different compression ratios)
Crown coated with ceramic heat barrier to improve piston durability
Skirt coated with a molly based anti friction material to improve skirt wear
Package Includes: Billet Rods, Coated Pistons, Piston Pins, and Rings

Click here for more information on our Ecoboost performance products and packages or to place an order as well.

Attached are some photo's of some recent builds, as well as some shots of the machine and engine shop.



















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Here are some additional pictures of the shop and engine current Ecoboost engine builds.


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Do you guys sell short blocks with these upgrades?
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Originally Posted by vozaday
Do you guys sell short blocks with these upgrades?
Yes we could defintely set you up with an estimate to have one built if you would like.

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Rod broke in two places, both skirts gone and piston broke through the pin. What actually let go first? I'm thinking skirt so the piston got jammed in sideways causing other parts to fail.
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What turbos were in the truck?
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Didn't Mike B have 600 whp on stock internals? If you say they are only good to 450 then his rods should have snapped like a match stock as soon as he pressed the gas.
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Mike did have stock internals and I've been running my setup for just about a year and 12k+ miles making 480+ HP so I think there's some room yet.
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Originally Posted by Joewee3.5
Didn't Mike B have 600 whp on stock internals? If you say they are only good to 450 then his rods should have snapped like a match stock as soon as he pressed the gas.
Sure did, and wouldn't that be like 725-750HP at the crank?

Where is that new HPFP???
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Sounds like from what y'all are saying someone is fear mongering, I hate companies that say one thing when they are selling a certain product and turn around and say something else when they are selling something else.


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