how often to change the oil in EB motor?
12-06-2014, 03:40 PM
#21
Senior Member
Mine does not do this at all.
If I drive more city, the interval decreases. It is not a countdown timer. Your manual explains this.
Out of curiosity, has anybody had an oil-related failure on any 2011+ engine??
Not to stir the pot, but I also have a twin-turbo direct injected BMW, where the OCI is 30,0000 kms or 1 year (whichever comes first). I've followed it pretty much since new (now 190,000 km) and have no oil-related problems with the engine at all. I sold an earlier BMW with 210,000 km and did the same. I presumed that the engineers for all of these companies build in a buffer when they recommend an OCI. You know, they have used these long OCI's in Europe for years and I am not hearing about a lot of oil-related failures and their city traffic is a lot worse and the highway speeds are a lot higher.
If I drive more city, the interval decreases. It is not a countdown timer. Your manual explains this.
Out of curiosity, has anybody had an oil-related failure on any 2011+ engine??
Not to stir the pot, but I also have a twin-turbo direct injected BMW, where the OCI is 30,0000 kms or 1 year (whichever comes first). I've followed it pretty much since new (now 190,000 km) and have no oil-related problems with the engine at all. I sold an earlier BMW with 210,000 km and did the same. I presumed that the engineers for all of these companies build in a buffer when they recommend an OCI. You know, they have used these long OCI's in Europe for years and I am not hearing about a lot of oil-related failures and their city traffic is a lot worse and the highway speeds are a lot higher.
12-06-2014, 10:54 PM
#22
Senior Member
Funny thing is those Synthetic ultra filters actually filter out less particulate than the motocraft filters. They let through bigger and all the smaller mircron particulate than a standard filter does... or so I have read on a few filter comparison articles.
I'd rather change the filter twice and leave the oil in the full 10k. But I run 5K (8K Km) oil changes on mine.
I'd rather change the filter twice and leave the oil in the full 10k. But I run 5K (8K Km) oil changes on mine.
And filters filter better the more clogged they get so leaving them in longer allows them to capture more particles not less. Until they load up and go into bypass.
12-07-2014, 01:53 AM
#23
FX4RoadWarrior
Oil life monitor will have the oil changes at exactly 10,000 miles, regardless of how you drive it. That said, many have blamed the timing chain problems on that long of a oil change interval. That there have been problems with oil dilution during cold weather short trips is very well documented. If you are going to pile on the miles, then go 10,000. If you are taking short trips, then go every 5,000.
Change your plugs before 50,000 miles or you'll be forced to by a check engine light.
Change your plugs before 50,000 miles or you'll be forced to by a check engine light.
12-07-2014, 12:05 PM
#24
Got a link? Cause from what the oil nerds over at BITOG say and the data I've found, most synthetic filters do indeed filter more. The Fram Ultra is one of the mosthighly regarded filters for the price and availability. Even the "cardboard endcaps" is nonsense as it's the same material the filter is made out of (filter paper)!
And filters filter better the more clogged they get so leaving them in longer allows them to capture more particles not less. Until they load up and go into bypass.
And filters filter better the more clogged they get so leaving them in longer allows them to capture more particles not less. Until they load up and go into bypass.
12-07-2014, 12:09 PM
#25
I'm changing it today and putting in castrol edge synthetic and using the wix filter. The local auto parts store showed me a fram and wix filter cut open side by side and the fram has cardboard/paper top and bottom piece to keep the oil separated whereas the wix is all metal inside. Plus the antisiphon part in the wix was also much better quality. I've never cut filters apart before but it was interesting seeing the diff between those two.
Also changing plugs today with the newer Motorsport plugs since mine are original at 70k miles. Very curious to see what they look like.
Also changing plugs today with the newer Motorsport plugs since mine are original at 70k miles. Very curious to see what they look like.
12-08-2014, 07:21 AM
#26
Senior Member
Ford uses an algorithm for the oil life monitor (engine speed, do you have a trailer connected, ...). It does NOT sense the oil quality nor does it sense fuel in the oil. I would not trust it completely.
Most people who take the time and get a UOA (used oil analysis) performed on the ecoboost show significant viscosity loss and fuel in the oil. Use that information to your advantage.
Most people who take the time and get a UOA (used oil analysis) performed on the ecoboost show significant viscosity loss and fuel in the oil. Use that information to your advantage.
12-08-2014, 10:01 AM
#27
I bought my '13 EB, brand new exactly a year ago this month and I have 9400 miles. I never get near the mileage mark when it comes to changing my oil. I usually change it after 5 months and I run Royal Purple 5w30 w/ MotorCraft FL500s.
12-08-2014, 12:14 PM
#28
Senior Member
Seems maybe I put off the startup noise a little longer than others by doing shorter interval oil changes. First heard the noise in August, happened 2 times in the last week with 95,500 miles now. I followed the oil life monitor for probably the first year of ownership...after extensive reading and research I started setting the oil life monitor to 50% after an oil change. Still not enough I guess as the chain is gone.
Go ahead and follow the OLM if you want, I highly suggest doing it more often.
Go ahead and follow the OLM if you want, I highly suggest doing it more often.
