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Old 06-15-2011, 11:49 AM
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I gotta check that out - have a new scangauge e that I won but haven't observed throttle angle. Not even sure it has throttle angle as an option. I know it has tps voltage but haven't played enough to know it all yet.
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Here's a video of boost during 1/4 mile run:
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Originally Posted by engineermike
On my scangauge, I was showing nearly 15 psi, but only during the first "surge" of power you feel. After that, it pulls it down to ~10 psi and it appears to do it by modulating the throttle blade. Not the most efficient way to reduce boost, which is why a tune MIGHT net a bunch of power. My theory is that Ford programmed it with a big spike in boost down low to get the big torque numbers, then slacked off up top.
That explanation doesn't hold water to me, nothing personal. As to your last sentence, the EB has 90% or more of it's rated torque all the way from 1700-5000 rpm, making it less of a torque "curve" than 3-sides-of-a-square.

As RPM is increasing much faster, percentage-wise, than the turbos could (since they initially spin up so fast compared to the engine), the pressure has to go down.
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Originally Posted by NASSTY
Mine spikes to 15psi, then it drops and holds at 12psi for a few seconds, then drops to around 10 until it upshifts.Then it repeats in the next gear.
I've only had my boost gauge hooked up for 1 day so I haven't had much time to play around with it yet.
This is as it should be. The upshift lowers the air volume flowing through the engine as the rpm's decrease, but the turbos are still spooled up, hence the pressure increase, and the repeated cycle as you've described.
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Originally Posted by engineermike
Good to hear. I thought I was either going crazy or had erroneous readings. It's very odd indeed. The stranger part is the throttle blade modulating to limit power/boost when the pedal is on the floor.
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Throttle blade modulation isn't new in fords bag of tricks. They've been doing it that way on mustangs for several years.
While that may be the case, and possible because of "fly-by-wire" throttles, coming from the diesel world, the modulating was done, especially for purposes of auto tranny gear changes, done by controlling the direct injection (momentary de-fueling), not by moving the throttle blades. Much faster that way, as it is done in milliseconds. And we do have direct injection, not sure if the Mustangs did???
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Bundo, Diesels don't modulate the fly-by-wire throttle blade because they don't have one. "De-fueling" the diesel is the easiest way they could reduce power during the shift. What we are seeing, however, is dialed back throttle in the gear between shifts.

Also, in the vast majority of turbocharged gas engines, the wastegate holds boost pressure constant through the rpm range. This isn't a supercharger, where the boost isn't controlled. I've never seen a boost increase during and after the shift on any turbo vehicle until this truck.
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I wonder if the Ecoboost gives out more power if it's under load? That would explain a lot of the "it feels like nothing is there" comments when a trailer is attached to one.
I noticed on my cousin's Platinum the turbos spool up very quickly and are fairly loud if he has his boat hooked up, while you can't even hear them when it's empty, even pulling a grade.
My XLT doesn't see enough trailers to know if that's true on it too. It likes hills, though.



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