Topic Sponsor
2011+ Engine Related Questions Sub-Forum to the new engines that debuted in 2011.

The evidence of a tuner left on the PCM

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-17-2012, 07:54 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
TwinTurboFx4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,249
Received 117 Likes on 103 Posts
Default

Ya I talked to Rick at livernois and if the tune is set back to stock is virtually impossible for a dealer to find any trace to a tuner. It can be found but it's very very difficult.
Old 11-17-2012, 09:36 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
Centexguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,398
Received 130 Likes on 102 Posts
Default

Mine had been returned to stock for a week when I took it in for the condensation issue. CEL was on. In less than an hour they had ordered new cats and new intercooler. No mention of a tuner.
Old 11-17-2012, 09:42 AM
  #13  
SS..DD
iTrader: (1)
 
Damn Dirty Ape's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: S.W. Illinois
Posts: 2,717
Received 101 Likes on 87 Posts

Default

[QUOTE=TwinTurboFx4;2184061]Ya I talked to Rick at livernois and if the tune is set back to stock is virtually impossible for a dealer to find any trace to a tuner. It can be found but it's very very difficult.[/QUOTE

From what I read here and elsewhere, Ford (the people who WROTE the instructions in the PCM) has given the dealers very in-depth instructions on how to search too. It's called reducing losses on warranty when unapproved modifications are made while under warranty.
Old 11-17-2012, 09:42 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
BucketMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Roanoke, VA
Posts: 2,219
Received 387 Likes on 274 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Centexguy
Mine had been returned to stock for a week when I took it in for the condensation issue. CEL was on. In less than an hour they had ordered new cats and new intercooler. No mention of a tuner.
Out if curiosity did the CEL come on when it was tuned? If so after you returned it to stock did the CEL remain on?

My concern would be getting a CEL (unrelated to the tune IE: condensation issue), then return it to stock for service and when the truck was flashed back that would erase the CEL.

Can anyone confirm this?
Old 11-17-2012, 09:43 AM
  #15  
SS..DD
iTrader: (1)
 
Damn Dirty Ape's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: S.W. Illinois
Posts: 2,717
Received 101 Likes on 87 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Centexguy
Mine had been returned to stock for a week when I took it in for the condensation issue. CEL was on. In less than an hour they had ordered new cats and new intercooler. No mention of a tuner.
But I bet they weren't looking for a fingerprint either since this is a problem that is well-known.
Old 11-17-2012, 09:46 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
TwinTurboFx4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,249
Received 117 Likes on 103 Posts
Default

all these dealer techs, They don't give a crap. They are there to get cars in and out ASAP to make more money. That is all. So no one should really worry.
Old 11-17-2012, 10:09 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
likemyeco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 103
Received 22 Likes on 20 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by TwinTurboFx4
all these dealer techs, They don't give a crap. They are there to get cars in and out ASAP to make more money. That is all. So no one should really worry.
You are correct !!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 11-17-2012, 10:11 AM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Centexguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,398
Received 130 Likes on 102 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by BucketMan
Out if curiosity did the CEL come on when it was tuned? If so after you returned it to stock did the CEL remain on?

My concern would be getting a CEL (unrelated to the tune IE: condensation issue), then return it to stock for service and when the truck was flashed back that would erase the CEL.

Can anyone confirm this?
It came on tuned, was erased when returned to stock, so I drove it for a week to let it come back on and I left it on.
Old 11-17-2012, 10:12 AM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Centexguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,398
Received 130 Likes on 102 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Damn Dirty Ape
But I bet they weren't looking for a fingerprint either since this is a problem that is well-known.
Willing to bet a dealer in the desert has never heard of this since they are so dry.
Old 11-17-2012, 11:02 AM
  #20  
FORD lifer
 
montanaman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: The Quad Cities - relocated from Montana
Posts: 1,232
Received 246 Likes on 185 Posts

Default

If you put the stock tune back on your truck, run it, and then disconnect the battery for a minute, and fire it up again, the computer will be completely reset, and will even have to 'learn' your driving habits again.

Now if you have a bad tune/tuner that fries your computer, you will be SOL, and buying an expensive part.

I'll pass a fine bottle of Brandy to anybody who can show me that a dealer 'discovered' that a PCM had been previously tuned. Especially on used vehicles that they've traded in, and re-sold.


Quick Reply: The evidence of a tuner left on the PCM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:23 PM.