EcoLEMON'S 3rd TIMING CHAIN IN 60,000KMS FORD DOES NOTHING
04-23-2015, 05:47 PM
#51
Senior Member
The new TSB is (copied from another post)
TSB 15-0044
Built on or before 10/10/14
FORD: 2011-2014 F-150
This article supersedes TSB 14-0194 to update the Parts List.
ISSUE:
Some 2011-2014 F-150 vehicles equipped with a 3.5L Gasoline Turbocharged Direct Injection (GTDI) engine and built on or before 10/10/2014 may exhibit a malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) illuminated with diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P0016. Other DTCs and driveability concerns may also be present. This concern may be due to a worn primary timing chain.
ACTION:
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
1.Is the vehicle build date on or before 10/10/2014?
a.Yes - proceed to Step 2.
b.No - this procedure does not apply. Refer to Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) manual for normal diagnosis.
2.Using Integrated Diagnostic System (IDS), with key on and engine running (KOER), select the VCT_INT_ACT1 Parameter Identification Data (PID) in the Datalogger.
a.If VCT_INT_ACT1 PID reads +6 degrees or greater, proceed to Step 3.
b.If VCT_INT_ACT1 PID reads +5 degrees or less - this procedure does not apply. Refer to Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) manual for normal diagnostics.
3.Replace the primary timing chain. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-01.
PART NUMBER PART NAME
AT4Z-6268-C AT4Z-6268-C Primary Timing Chain
AA5Z-9439-A AA5Z-9439-A Intake Gasket
BL3Z-6584-A BL3Z-6584-A Cam Cover Gasket - Left Hand
BR3Z-6584-B BR3Z-6584-B Cam Cover Gasket - Right Hand (2011–2012)
DL3Z-6584-B DL3Z-6584-B Cam Cover Gasket - Right Hand (2013–2014)
BL3Z-9E583-B BL3Z-9E583-B High Pressure Pump O-ring
BR3Z-8507-C BR3Z-8507-C Pump Gasket
BR3Z-8527-A BR3Z-8527-A Pump O-ring
7T4Z-8590-A 7T4Z-8590-A Coolant Inlet Seal
XW4Z-6700-AA XW4Z-6700-AA Crank Seal
BR3Z-6020-A BR3Z-6020-A Front Cover Radial Seal
F5RZ-6A340-B F5RZ-6A340-B Damper Bolt
TA-357 TA-357 Motorcraft® High Performance Engine RTV Silicone
ZC-30-A ZC-30-A Motorcraft® Silicone Gasket Remover
ZC-31-B ZC-31-B Motorcraft® Metal Surface Prep
VC-3-B VC-3-B Motorcraft® Orange Antifreeze/Coolant Concentrated
XO-5W30-QSP XO-5W30-QSP Motorcraft® SAE 5W-30 Premium Synthetic Blend Motor Oil
TA-25-B TA-25-B Motorcraft® Threadlock and Sealer
TA-24-B TA-24-B Motorcraft® Thread Sealant with PTFE
OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
150044A 2011-2014 F-150 3.5L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace The Primary Timing Chain (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations) 8.9 Hrs.
WARRANTY STATUS
Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage And Emissions Warranty Coverage.
Warranty/ESP coverage limits/policies/prior approvals are not altered by a TSB. Warranty/ESP coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part and verified using the OASIS part coverage tool.
DEALER CODING
BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE
6268 33
TSB 15-0044
Built on or before 10/10/14
FORD: 2011-2014 F-150
This article supersedes TSB 14-0194 to update the Parts List.
ISSUE:
Some 2011-2014 F-150 vehicles equipped with a 3.5L Gasoline Turbocharged Direct Injection (GTDI) engine and built on or before 10/10/2014 may exhibit a malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) illuminated with diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P0016. Other DTCs and driveability concerns may also be present. This concern may be due to a worn primary timing chain.
ACTION:
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
1.Is the vehicle build date on or before 10/10/2014?
a.Yes - proceed to Step 2.
b.No - this procedure does not apply. Refer to Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) manual for normal diagnosis.
2.Using Integrated Diagnostic System (IDS), with key on and engine running (KOER), select the VCT_INT_ACT1 Parameter Identification Data (PID) in the Datalogger.
a.If VCT_INT_ACT1 PID reads +6 degrees or greater, proceed to Step 3.
b.If VCT_INT_ACT1 PID reads +5 degrees or less - this procedure does not apply. Refer to Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) manual for normal diagnostics.
3.Replace the primary timing chain. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-01.
PART NUMBER PART NAME
AT4Z-6268-C AT4Z-6268-C Primary Timing Chain
AA5Z-9439-A AA5Z-9439-A Intake Gasket
BL3Z-6584-A BL3Z-6584-A Cam Cover Gasket - Left Hand
BR3Z-6584-B BR3Z-6584-B Cam Cover Gasket - Right Hand (2011–2012)
DL3Z-6584-B DL3Z-6584-B Cam Cover Gasket - Right Hand (2013–2014)
BL3Z-9E583-B BL3Z-9E583-B High Pressure Pump O-ring
BR3Z-8507-C BR3Z-8507-C Pump Gasket
BR3Z-8527-A BR3Z-8527-A Pump O-ring
7T4Z-8590-A 7T4Z-8590-A Coolant Inlet Seal
XW4Z-6700-AA XW4Z-6700-AA Crank Seal
BR3Z-6020-A BR3Z-6020-A Front Cover Radial Seal
F5RZ-6A340-B F5RZ-6A340-B Damper Bolt
TA-357 TA-357 Motorcraft® High Performance Engine RTV Silicone
ZC-30-A ZC-30-A Motorcraft® Silicone Gasket Remover
ZC-31-B ZC-31-B Motorcraft® Metal Surface Prep
VC-3-B VC-3-B Motorcraft® Orange Antifreeze/Coolant Concentrated
XO-5W30-QSP XO-5W30-QSP Motorcraft® SAE 5W-30 Premium Synthetic Blend Motor Oil
TA-25-B TA-25-B Motorcraft® Threadlock and Sealer
TA-24-B TA-24-B Motorcraft® Thread Sealant with PTFE
OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
150044A 2011-2014 F-150 3.5L GTDI: Diagnose And Replace The Primary Timing Chain (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations) 8.9 Hrs.
WARRANTY STATUS
Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage And Emissions Warranty Coverage.
Warranty/ESP coverage limits/policies/prior approvals are not altered by a TSB. Warranty/ESP coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part and verified using the OASIS part coverage tool.
DEALER CODING
BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE
6268 33
I first glance I'm not recognizing any differences between the original TSB and the updated one. Personally, I'm just praying for a CEL before my 24 month repair warranty is up. And yes, I'm starting to get pissed at Ford for the way they are not dealing with the problem.
04-23-2015, 06:28 PM
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Just noticed the part number is listed for 2013-2014 trucks. That's odd they don't have 2011-12 listed under that part#.
Maybe just a change in diagnostics procedure. It appears the timing chain part# was changed somewhere along the way. Looks like it ended with a B at one time and now C.
Last edited by acat9; 04-23-2015 at 06:33 PM.
04-25-2015, 01:13 PM
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I'm just praying for a CEL before my 24 month repair warranty is up. And yes, I'm starting to get pissed at Ford for the way they are not dealing with the problem.
If my 2014 makes the noise within my warranty period I'm going all-in for a Buyback through CAMVAP.
04-25-2015, 08:27 PM
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04-29-2015, 07:32 PM
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Results of Timing Check
Got the bad news today.............last time the timing was out 4 degrees. It is now out 5 degrees and the dealer says they will not touch it. They will not stand up to Ford even though they know there is a problem. They have heard it. I give up................
) next week.
04-29-2015, 10:35 PM
#57
King Hater
Did they give you a reason why they wouldnt do it? How about finding a new dealership?
04-29-2015, 11:50 PM
#58
Wow suprised what they said. Should go take it to local shops instead of dealer. Man im sorry to hear that...
04-30-2015, 12:23 AM
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[QUOTE=chef-j;4131744]sorry to hear that op. I think a lot of ecoboost guys having more problems than 5.0 guys.
What you mean by rearend twice?
Man that did cost you heck alot money, you must love your truck to keep with all that bs.
I will wait year or two to get diesel titan. it doesnt matter how beautiful cummins it is! Always skip first year model![/QUOTE
I had to replace the pinion bearing twice which means ripping the rear end apart at a cost of $1,400 each time its utter crap!!!!!!!!!! AND I DONT TOW...
What you mean by rearend twice?
Man that did cost you heck alot money, you must love your truck to keep with all that bs.
I will wait year or two to get diesel titan. it doesnt matter how beautiful cummins it is! Always skip first year model![/QUOTE
I had to replace the pinion bearing twice which means ripping the rear end apart at a cost of $1,400 each time its utter crap!!!!!!!!!! AND I DONT TOW...