EcoBoost towing 11,000lbs on a semi-daily basis?
#21
Thanks all for all your thoughts and the things to consider. I am definitely am hearing that I may be better off going with a SD. That said, if I was to tow this setup a few times a month, not daily, would that change your opinion? I just rented an ecoboost with max tow from Budget for the week to give it a good trial run and see how it goes.
Again...people feel free to keep posting thoughts! I appreciate them all!
Oh, and has anyone pulled a similar setup? Some heavy equipment or something close to Max weight??
thanks
Again...people feel free to keep posting thoughts! I appreciate them all!
Oh, and has anyone pulled a similar setup? Some heavy equipment or something close to Max weight??
thanks
I would go SD for sure
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#22
2018 F150 Platinum FX4
Diesel all the way. It will pay for itself in fuel and longevity.
#23
Senior Member
I've pulled this setup a few times with mine, up and down some VERY steep grades (More than 9%). The trailer with the Ford 3000 tractor weighs in at over 10,000 pounds.
Truck pulled it like a champ, even over some washboarded roads - Yes, the chassis handled it just fine, yes it stopped just fine. There will be a minor amount of frame flex, but the frame is designed for this. That's why the box isn't attached directly to the cab - stuff would break that way under full load.
I got 14.5 MPG pulling this about 100 miles on the interstate.
What is up with everyone insisting that you can't tow the maximum rated weight?
I work for a long haul trucking company - we pull the maximum rated weight with our equipment every day of the year. Yes, it breaks down a little more often than if it was running empty, but you should be making enough profit from the added wear on your vehicle to pay for the increased maintenance and fuel costs.
I do suggest getting the F-150 with the Heavy Duty package though - I think you'll be happier in the long run. You get better tires and rear springs, and you have enough payload left to haul a few people around with your trailer. Definitely get a WDH - loading is much easier that way, and it will handle better. Also, the truck is only rated for 5500 pounds without it.
All that being said, who wouldn't take a diesel SD over an F-150 for towing any day? But who wants to pay $8,000 to $10,000 more just for the diesel option, when the F-150 already has the required rating to get the job done?
Truck pulled it like a champ, even over some washboarded roads - Yes, the chassis handled it just fine, yes it stopped just fine. There will be a minor amount of frame flex, but the frame is designed for this. That's why the box isn't attached directly to the cab - stuff would break that way under full load.
I got 14.5 MPG pulling this about 100 miles on the interstate.
What is up with everyone insisting that you can't tow the maximum rated weight?
I work for a long haul trucking company - we pull the maximum rated weight with our equipment every day of the year. Yes, it breaks down a little more often than if it was running empty, but you should be making enough profit from the added wear on your vehicle to pay for the increased maintenance and fuel costs.
I do suggest getting the F-150 with the Heavy Duty package though - I think you'll be happier in the long run. You get better tires and rear springs, and you have enough payload left to haul a few people around with your trailer. Definitely get a WDH - loading is much easier that way, and it will handle better. Also, the truck is only rated for 5500 pounds without it.
All that being said, who wouldn't take a diesel SD over an F-150 for towing any day? But who wants to pay $8,000 to $10,000 more just for the diesel option, when the F-150 already has the required rating to get the job done?
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#24
I have to agree that towing the max rating even daily is not an issue. These trucks are DESIGNED for that amount of weight. The only difference on the max rating is torque available based on the rear end axle ratio. All f150 ecoboosts have the same exact brakes. The SD will weigh more and that means increase stopping times even with the enhanced brakes and slower getting to highway speeds. These Ford half ton frames are built for it. The brakes are built for it. The motor has been proved over and over again that it is built for it. I would bet you that if you did a race with the same exact trailer with less than 11,300 pounds that the ecoboost would outperform the diesel. I timed my friend and I with the same trailer up a short hill. He has a newer 2012 powerstroke. I have a supercrew and he has the supercab. He was 2 seconds slower getting up the hill. That is a pretty big difference. Let's look at the numbers and quit going by the seat of your pants. The only possible way a SD wins a comparison is by stability and that is only because of the extra wight or the dual axles.
Did everyone forget this video?
Did everyone forget this video?
#25
Senior Member
I towed a dump trailer with skidsteer.
It was fine.
I weighed it and the trailer axles had 10000lbs and the hith had 2000lbs, so total 12000lbs.
I have the hd pkg.
It was fine.
I weighed it and the trailer axles had 10000lbs and the hith had 2000lbs, so total 12000lbs.
I have the hd pkg.
#26
I would say the average Superduty weighs over 8000 pounds. Some weigh over 9000. With me in it, my Screw F150 Ecoboost weighs right at 6000 pounds. 2000-3000 pounds is a lot to make up for when it comes down to it. This does not just affect getting to speed.
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#27
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YES it CAN. But with F350 you won't even know it's there.
#28
Inebriated 4 ur safety
I have to agree that towing the max rating even daily is not an issue. These trucks are DESIGNED for that amount of weight. The only difference on the max rating is torque available based on the rear end axle ratio. All f150 ecoboosts have the same exact brakes. The SD will weigh more and that means increase stopping times even with the enhanced brakes and slower getting to highway speeds. These Ford half ton frames are built for it. The brakes are built for it. The motor has been proved over and over again that it is built for it. I would bet you that if you did a race with the same exact trailer with less than 11,300 pounds that the ecoboost would outperform the diesel. I timed my friend and I with the same trailer up a short hill. He has a newer 2012 powerstroke. I have a supercrew and he has the supercab. He was 2 seconds slower getting up the hill. That is a pretty big difference. Let's look at the numbers and quit going by the seat of your pants. The only possible way a SD wins a comparison is by stability and that is only because of the extra wight or the dual axles.
Did everyone forget this video?
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Hn2ciMjqM
Did everyone forget this video?
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Hn2ciMjqM
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#30
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I agree Twisty. It depends on where he is going to drive.
My highways are 12 lanes wide with people driving 80+ MPH, so I can not use his set up.
If he is driving 40 all day in a town of 1,000 people well maybe no big deal LOL.
My highways are 12 lanes wide with people driving 80+ MPH, so I can not use his set up.
If he is driving 40 all day in a town of 1,000 people well maybe no big deal LOL.