Ecoboost stalling on accel issues
#1
Ecoboost stalling on accel issues
New to this forum and new truck owner. Supercrew Lariat with ecoboost.
I had been driving 55 on two lane road for 2 hrs and needed to pass a few cars. Had time, punched it and nothing. The it started shaking violently. After 5 min it was fine. The next time I had the opportunity to pass, it did what it was trained to do. What I paid the extra 1500 for. The next day engine light came on.
I took it in to my friendly service dept and they told me what it was before even looking at it. It was what they thought and it is running fine now.
If you are having this issue and your truck was built before 5/24 /12 this may be your problem.
Here is the service bulletin I was given when I picked the truck up after service.
3.5L GTDI CALIBRATION UPDATE—VARIOUS ISSUES—BUILT ON OR BEFORE 5/24/2012
TSB 12-6-4
FORD:
2011-2012 F-150
ISSUE
Some 2011-2012 F-150 vehicles built on or before 5/24/2012 and equipped with a 3.5L gasoline turbocharged direct injection (GTDI) Ecoboost engine exhibit a steady or flashing malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) with various diagnostic trouble codes (DTC) and drivability concerns.
ACTION
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
The calibration update contains improvement actions and enhancements to address the following conditions:
• Intermittent stumble and/or misfire on hard acceleration after an extended drive at highway speeds being more noticeable during humid or damp conditions.
• Intermittent engine surge during moderate to light loads at cruise.
• Powertrain control module (PCM) Misfire DTC P030x.
• PCM DTC P0430 and/or P0299.
NOTE
INSURE ALL HARD FAULT POWERTRAIN DTCS ARE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO PERFORMING THE CALIBRATION UPDATE.
1. Check for DTC P0430. Is DTC P0430 present?
a. Yes - Replace the left bank catalytic converter assembly. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 309-00. Proceed to Step 2.
b. No - Proceed to Step 2.
2. Is the Charge Air Cooler (CAC) equipped with an air deflector plate? (Figure 1A)
Figure 1 - Article 12-6-4
a. Yes - Proceed to Step 4. b. No - Proceed to Step 3.
3. Install CAC air deflector plate with two new push pins. (Figure 1B) Proceed to step 4.
4. Reprogram the PCM to the latest calibration using IDS release 79.02A or higher. This new calibration is not included in the 2012.5 DVD. Calibration files may also be obtained at www.motorcraft.com.
NOTE
PLEASE ADVISE THE CUSTOMER THAT THIS VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN ADAPTIVE TRANSMISSION SHIFT STRATEGY WHICH ALLOWS THE VEHICLE’S COMPUTER TO LEARN THE TRANSMISSION’S UNIQUE PARAMETERS AND IMPROVE SHIFT QUALITY. WHEN THE ADAPTIVE STRATEGY IS RESET, THE COMPUTER WILL BEGIN A RE-LEARNING PROCESS. THIS RE-LEARNING PROCESS MAY RESULT IN FIRMER THAN NORMAL UPSHIFTS AND DOWNSHIFTS FOR SEVERAL DAYS.
NOTE: The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by “do-it-yourselfers”. Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a Ford or Lincoln dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article.The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates.The most recent information is available through Ford Motor Company’s on-line technical resources.
Copyright 2012 Ford Motor Company Online Publication Date June 7, 2012 PAGE 1
TSB 12-6-4 (Continued)
PART NUMBER
PART NAME
BL3Z-5E212-E W520514-S440 CL3Z-19E672-A W711281-S300
Catalytic Converter Assembly Nuts (2 Req)
Deflector Plate
Push Pin (2 Req)
WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited
Warranty Coverage And Emissions Warranty Coverage
Warranty/ESP coverage limits/policies/prior approvals are not altered by a TSB. Warranty/ESP coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part and verified using the OASIS part coverage tool.
120604B 2011-2012 F-150 3.5L 1.0 Hr. GTDI: Check DTCs,
Replace The Left Catalytic Converter, Install CAC Air Deflector Plate if Necessary And Reprogram The PCM (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)
DEALER CODING
CONDITION BASIC PART NO. CODE
5E212 (OPERATION B) 12 6K775 (OPERATION A) 42
OPERATION DESCRIPTION
120604A 2011-2012 F-150 3.5L GTDI: Check DTCs, Install
CAC Air Deflector Plate if Necessary And Reprogram The PCM (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)
TIME
0.5 Hr.
PAGE 2
I had been driving 55 on two lane road for 2 hrs and needed to pass a few cars. Had time, punched it and nothing. The it started shaking violently. After 5 min it was fine. The next time I had the opportunity to pass, it did what it was trained to do. What I paid the extra 1500 for. The next day engine light came on.
I took it in to my friendly service dept and they told me what it was before even looking at it. It was what they thought and it is running fine now.
If you are having this issue and your truck was built before 5/24 /12 this may be your problem.
Here is the service bulletin I was given when I picked the truck up after service.
3.5L GTDI CALIBRATION UPDATE—VARIOUS ISSUES—BUILT ON OR BEFORE 5/24/2012
TSB 12-6-4
FORD:
2011-2012 F-150
ISSUE
Some 2011-2012 F-150 vehicles built on or before 5/24/2012 and equipped with a 3.5L gasoline turbocharged direct injection (GTDI) Ecoboost engine exhibit a steady or flashing malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) with various diagnostic trouble codes (DTC) and drivability concerns.
ACTION
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
The calibration update contains improvement actions and enhancements to address the following conditions:
• Intermittent stumble and/or misfire on hard acceleration after an extended drive at highway speeds being more noticeable during humid or damp conditions.
• Intermittent engine surge during moderate to light loads at cruise.
• Powertrain control module (PCM) Misfire DTC P030x.
• PCM DTC P0430 and/or P0299.
NOTE
INSURE ALL HARD FAULT POWERTRAIN DTCS ARE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO PERFORMING THE CALIBRATION UPDATE.
1. Check for DTC P0430. Is DTC P0430 present?
a. Yes - Replace the left bank catalytic converter assembly. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 309-00. Proceed to Step 2.
b. No - Proceed to Step 2.
2. Is the Charge Air Cooler (CAC) equipped with an air deflector plate? (Figure 1A)
Figure 1 - Article 12-6-4
a. Yes - Proceed to Step 4. b. No - Proceed to Step 3.
3. Install CAC air deflector plate with two new push pins. (Figure 1B) Proceed to step 4.
4. Reprogram the PCM to the latest calibration using IDS release 79.02A or higher. This new calibration is not included in the 2012.5 DVD. Calibration files may also be obtained at www.motorcraft.com.
NOTE
PLEASE ADVISE THE CUSTOMER THAT THIS VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN ADAPTIVE TRANSMISSION SHIFT STRATEGY WHICH ALLOWS THE VEHICLE’S COMPUTER TO LEARN THE TRANSMISSION’S UNIQUE PARAMETERS AND IMPROVE SHIFT QUALITY. WHEN THE ADAPTIVE STRATEGY IS RESET, THE COMPUTER WILL BEGIN A RE-LEARNING PROCESS. THIS RE-LEARNING PROCESS MAY RESULT IN FIRMER THAN NORMAL UPSHIFTS AND DOWNSHIFTS FOR SEVERAL DAYS.
NOTE: The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by “do-it-yourselfers”. Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a Ford or Lincoln dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article.The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates.The most recent information is available through Ford Motor Company’s on-line technical resources.
Copyright 2012 Ford Motor Company Online Publication Date June 7, 2012 PAGE 1
TSB 12-6-4 (Continued)
PART NUMBER
PART NAME
BL3Z-5E212-E W520514-S440 CL3Z-19E672-A W711281-S300
Catalytic Converter Assembly Nuts (2 Req)
Deflector Plate
Push Pin (2 Req)
WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited
Warranty Coverage And Emissions Warranty Coverage
Warranty/ESP coverage limits/policies/prior approvals are not altered by a TSB. Warranty/ESP coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part and verified using the OASIS part coverage tool.
120604B 2011-2012 F-150 3.5L 1.0 Hr. GTDI: Check DTCs,
Replace The Left Catalytic Converter, Install CAC Air Deflector Plate if Necessary And Reprogram The PCM (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)
DEALER CODING
CONDITION BASIC PART NO. CODE
5E212 (OPERATION B) 12 6K775 (OPERATION A) 42
OPERATION DESCRIPTION
120604A 2011-2012 F-150 3.5L GTDI: Check DTCs, Install
CAC Air Deflector Plate if Necessary And Reprogram The PCM (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)
TIME
0.5 Hr.
PAGE 2
Last edited by salrdav; 08-19-2012 at 08:32 AM.
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staple15 (01-13-2013)
#2
Senior Member
There have been about a dozen threads on this, namely the top sticky:
https://www.f150forum.com/f70/there-...cooler-156900/
https://www.f150forum.com/f70/there-...cooler-156900/
#3
same problem
I joined this board for several reasons, but the main reason is b/c of this exact same issue.
Picking my truck up from service dept. tomorrow and frustrated b/c they cant find any issues or codes with the truck. I told them about the TSB and they said " since the VIN doesnt bring up any TSB's or the tech's dont find and or witness anything wrong while the test drive, then it passes" well that makes me a liar then....
My truck has stalled 3 times so far, bought it July 2012 and have now 13,400 miles on it. Not sure what to make or do with this truck... Hell I almost had a head on already cause of the truck shutting down.
I'm reaching for any suggestions...Yes this is my first post here, but have numerous postings on gun/ rifle forums, not some troll like others like to think.
thanks for any suggestions..
-tim
Picking my truck up from service dept. tomorrow and frustrated b/c they cant find any issues or codes with the truck. I told them about the TSB and they said " since the VIN doesnt bring up any TSB's or the tech's dont find and or witness anything wrong while the test drive, then it passes" well that makes me a liar then....
My truck has stalled 3 times so far, bought it July 2012 and have now 13,400 miles on it. Not sure what to make or do with this truck... Hell I almost had a head on already cause of the truck shutting down.
I'm reaching for any suggestions...Yes this is my first post here, but have numerous postings on gun/ rifle forums, not some troll like others like to think.
thanks for any suggestions..
-tim
#4
Senior Member
I joined this board for several reasons, but the main reason is b/c of this exact same issue.
Picking my truck up from service dept. tomorrow and frustrated b/c they cant find any issues or codes with the truck. I told them about the TSB and they said " since the VIN doesnt bring up any TSB's or the tech's dont find and or witness anything wrong while the test drive, then it passes" well that makes me a liar then....
My truck has stalled 3 times so far, bought it July 2012 and have now 13,400 miles on it. Not sure what to make or do with this truck... Hell I almost had a head on already cause of the truck shutting down.
I'm reaching for any suggestions...Yes this is my first post here, but have numerous postings on gun/ rifle forums, not some troll like others like to think.
thanks for any suggestions..
-tim
Picking my truck up from service dept. tomorrow and frustrated b/c they cant find any issues or codes with the truck. I told them about the TSB and they said " since the VIN doesnt bring up any TSB's or the tech's dont find and or witness anything wrong while the test drive, then it passes" well that makes me a liar then....
My truck has stalled 3 times so far, bought it July 2012 and have now 13,400 miles on it. Not sure what to make or do with this truck... Hell I almost had a head on already cause of the truck shutting down.
I'm reaching for any suggestions...Yes this is my first post here, but have numerous postings on gun/ rifle forums, not some troll like others like to think.
thanks for any suggestions..
-tim