EcoBoost Programmer Opinions
01-17-2013, 01:41 AM
#41
Only have experience with the SCT tuner and MPT tunes. Have driven a many miles and so far so good. Running their 87 performance tune as a daily driver. Don't know exactly what the gains are as MPT only has the SCT canned tune numbers posted on their site. From driving the tune, can definitely feel the power gain over stock.
Last edited by fx4moose; 01-17-2013 at 01:44 AM.
01-17-2013, 02:23 AM
#42
Senior Member
For the more advanced, there is HP Tuners as well.
This technology has been used for many years as it was already said. Nothing is that cosmic.
Twin Turbo? Mitsubishi had a TT 3.0 back in the early 90s and GM had the GNX before that(single turbo I know). But it has variable valve timing? People Turbo VTEC Honda's( Yes it's a honda but you only need 200 Hp and 200 Ft/lbs tq when your car weights less than 2200 lbs) all day everyday and use a V-AFC piggy back from Apex-i to tune it.
The files are so large because of all the different modules in the vehicle controlling different aspects that used to be controlled by a simple switch and relay. though these modules aren't probably important to the performance of the tune, they have to be included because of their interfaces.
Every time you re-flash your ECU there is a record of it in the ECU/PCM(Much like your home PC) and settings are refreshed to a "like new" state which can be seen if, someone can access it. However, don't fret this can be accessed by a programmer, Not the dealership technicians. The dealership uses a tool or a laptop that connects to the OBD port and it has limited function. Your average technician doesn't know anything about tunes except they change AFRs and timing as well as LTFTs and STFTs and shift points. Ask anyone of them what a fuel cell/block percentage or count is and they will be lost. So, they will not know you had a tuner attached and they more than likely cannot prove it.
Anywho, to the OP, the best tune in any case is going to be a tune done on a dyno. The issue is of course when you take it to the stealership, the tune will be erased and you will have lost your 275 or so you paid for it. The other option is to get HP Tuners, then take it to have it tuned, save the profile stock and then after the tune or ask the guy/girl running the dyno and ask them to share the file with you... good luck with that. Most tuners keep tunes close and don't share.
Have questions? Please ask.
I can second the Mazda forums as well. mazda3forums.com. There are many write-ups on there and concerns from when the engine came out. The concerns and questions are much the same in this community as well.
This technology has been used for many years as it was already said. Nothing is that cosmic.
Twin Turbo? Mitsubishi had a TT 3.0 back in the early 90s and GM had the GNX before that(single turbo I know). But it has variable valve timing? People Turbo VTEC Honda's( Yes it's a honda but you only need 200 Hp and 200 Ft/lbs tq when your car weights less than 2200 lbs) all day everyday and use a V-AFC piggy back from Apex-i to tune it.
The files are so large because of all the different modules in the vehicle controlling different aspects that used to be controlled by a simple switch and relay. though these modules aren't probably important to the performance of the tune, they have to be included because of their interfaces.
Every time you re-flash your ECU there is a record of it in the ECU/PCM(Much like your home PC) and settings are refreshed to a "like new" state which can be seen if, someone can access it. However, don't fret this can be accessed by a programmer, Not the dealership technicians. The dealership uses a tool or a laptop that connects to the OBD port and it has limited function. Your average technician doesn't know anything about tunes except they change AFRs and timing as well as LTFTs and STFTs and shift points. Ask anyone of them what a fuel cell/block percentage or count is and they will be lost. So, they will not know you had a tuner attached and they more than likely cannot prove it.
Anywho, to the OP, the best tune in any case is going to be a tune done on a dyno. The issue is of course when you take it to the stealership, the tune will be erased and you will have lost your 275 or so you paid for it. The other option is to get HP Tuners, then take it to have it tuned, save the profile stock and then after the tune or ask the guy/girl running the dyno and ask them to share the file with you... good luck with that. Most tuners keep tunes close and don't share.
Have questions? Please ask.
I can second the Mazda forums as well. mazda3forums.com. There are many write-ups on there and concerns from when the engine came out. The concerns and questions are much the same in this community as well.
01-17-2013, 01:26 PM
#43
Lookin' for Trouble
it was a round about figure. It would be closer to 400+ but, I've done road tunes for cheaper than that on many DSMs and Honda's(thus, the reason I used them as examples) with piggy backs and other software. Given I knew the people.
I miss spoke. I thought I saw the ecoboost was supported last I went to their site. Sadly, it seems many of their Ford tunes have been removed... Not sure why though.
I miss spoke. I thought I saw the ecoboost was supported last I went to their site. Sadly, it seems many of their Ford tunes have been removed... Not sure why though.