Ecoboost Lemon Law
#11
[QUOTE=engineermike;2625195]More people have died from stray hockey pucks than ecoboost loss-of-power.
If I owned a brand new truck that fell on it's face the argument of safety wouldn't even come up.. my argument plain and simple would be I paid $$$$$$$ for a pos fix it or give me a new one! regardless of when it falls on it's face and who is at fault is irrelevant. When you pay that much money for a vehicle you expect it to run properly.
If I owned a brand new truck that fell on it's face the argument of safety wouldn't even come up.. my argument plain and simple would be I paid $$$$$$$ for a pos fix it or give me a new one! regardless of when it falls on it's face and who is at fault is irrelevant. When you pay that much money for a vehicle you expect it to run properly.
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Okay, I drive very conservatively and carefully, but, man, like I said, even for an old codger like me, when I press GO pedal, I WANT and expect the thing to scat! There are times it could get someone hurt or killed if the thing stalls when you expect it to go.
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#13
There are about half a million Ecoboost F150's on the road. A bunch of people write here that they've been almost killed by theirs, but there hasn't been a single report of an accident, let along injury or death.
I would like to point out that having power is NOT a safety feature. If it were, cars would be designed very different.
Why would you just let off the gas and coast or brake? At least in my state, it's the responsibility of the trailing vehicle to not collide into the rear of a slower moving or decelerating vehicle.
Yes, it sucks that you lose power every now and then, but I think people are getting over-dramatic about it.
I would like to point out that having power is NOT a safety feature. If it were, cars would be designed very different.
Why would you just let off the gas and coast or brake? At least in my state, it's the responsibility of the trailing vehicle to not collide into the rear of a slower moving or decelerating vehicle.
Yes, it sucks that you lose power every now and then, but I think people are getting over-dramatic about it.
I pretty much know exactly when my truck is going to cut out so it hasn't really bothered me. I was trying to get it back into the dealer before my trip to let them try again to fix it. I was not able to get them to call me back before my trip so off I went. I'm not being over dramatic about this, actually my wife is the one that wants it gone, it scared her pretty bad.
Since in your state it is the responsibility of the trailing vehicle to get out of the way I'm sure you would have slammed on the brakes and let him rear end you while you were next to a swerving semi on a 2 lane divided highway with a grass median. I bet that would have worked out real well for everyone involved and the insurance company for the guy behind you would have paid for all the damage and injuries. I didn't feel that was a real viable option.
I was driving the speed limit in a pretty bad rainstorm. I came up to a semi in the right lane who was going much slower than the posted speed limit. When I started to slowly pass him a car came up behind following much too close for the conditions and then the semi started to swerve. This sounds like a good place to slam on the brakes to you? This situation caught me off guard. I knew I was set up for the power loss, driving for a long time in the rain at part throttle out of the boost, but I was just going to slowly pass the semi until he started swerving. At that point I felt acceleration was my only option. I'm sure the jerkoff who was right behind me is glad I was in front of him and not you, because I'm pretty sure there would have been at least a 2 car wreck when your vast knowledge of the laws of your state allowed you to slam on your brakes and make it his problem to get out of the way.
I bought this truck for the power, not to have it randomly lose power. I know how to fix the problem so why can't ford figure it out? If it is because its not a cost effective fix well fine they can buy my truck back and I will get a different one.
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More people have died from stray hockey pucks than ecoboost loss-of-power.
As I said...
When you guys choose to pass a semi, just how much safety factor are you leaving yourselves? I rarely pass one, but when I do I make sure there is PLENTY of clear road up ahead.
If, god forbid, someone does get into a head-on collision in this scenario, you can bet that the decision to pass will be questioned and the driver will bear some of the fault.
As I said...
When you guys choose to pass a semi, just how much safety factor are you leaving yourselves? I rarely pass one, but when I do I make sure there is PLENTY of clear road up ahead.
If, god forbid, someone does get into a head-on collision in this scenario, you can bet that the decision to pass will be questioned and the driver will bear some of the fault.
#18
I am in the exact same situation as you, flash, then cac and cat replace, now nothing. I just sent my lemon law letter to ford yesterday after my truck cut out next to a semi that was swerving towards me, there was a car behind me and accelerating was my only option beside going off the side of the road. So when the truck wouldn't accelerate and just fell on its face and started shaking I had no choice but to swerve off the road. I'm not willing to wait any longer for a fix and possibly get killed or wreck my truck in the process. I love this truck but this is a safety issue.
#19
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What Devo brought up is the glaring issue that the diehards can't seem to realize. Its not only the people in my truck that are put in harms way it is the multitude of cars behind. When the power loss happens and everyone stacks up behind you it may never even be an issue for you but someone else many cars back can get in the accident (accordion effect). To keep pointing out that xxxxx have been sold with no issues is totally false, this is a proven conditions/equipment failure not a random loose lugnut. I would bet you could replicate the issue in well over 50% of trucks in the right conditions. If this wasn't the case why is Ford even trying to fix the issue? I never had the issue until I just happened to be in the exact right conditions and it was a major danger not only for us (I knew what to do after reading on here about the issue) but for the others around us who weren't expecting a vehicle to lose all power on a 70mph interstate. How would any of us know if anyone has been killed or seriously hurt from this issue? Dead people don't talk last I checked and there is no way to know it happened without being told, heck even dealerships still think its an urban myth.
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Guys, don't misinterpret what I'm saying. I think it sucks that ford isn't/can't fix your trucks. That part is a shame. I too have a malfunctioning truck that I can't get fixed, but just because it gets my heart rate up a little doesn't mean it's a legitimate safety issue.
If you pass a semi in a heavy rainstorm, you are accepting some level of risk. It makes it worse if you know your truck has an intermittent acceleration problem and you did it anyway.
If I thought, "I'm about to attempt a maneuver and the only thing separating me or my family from death is engine power", I don't believe I would do it.
Do tell.
I ask because other vehicles have extremely similar intercoolers and no issues (Buick 3.8, for instance). Furthermore, I've driven 23000 miles in south la humidity and only had 2 minor hiccups, barely even noticeable. If it were an intercooler design issue, why wouldn't my truck have the same problem?
If you pass a semi in a heavy rainstorm, you are accepting some level of risk. It makes it worse if you know your truck has an intermittent acceleration problem and you did it anyway.
If I thought, "I'm about to attempt a maneuver and the only thing separating me or my family from death is engine power", I don't believe I would do it.
I ask because other vehicles have extremely similar intercoolers and no issues (Buick 3.8, for instance). Furthermore, I've driven 23000 miles in south la humidity and only had 2 minor hiccups, barely even noticeable. If it were an intercooler design issue, why wouldn't my truck have the same problem?
Last edited by engineermike; 04-18-2013 at 07:39 PM.