prime8

I live in the sticks... No emissions testin out here...

Pongdadong

I wonder if Perrin will come out with an aftermarket IC and IC Piping if Bigger turbos are being made. Put some G35 Turbos on it....LOL. Have Toyota Supra power but all in a truck.

sholland96

Now you're talkin'... I've used air/water intercoolers before, and that would be real nice on an EB... Less lag and maybe even a possible solution to the condensation issues some are reporting.

Leadsled124

I was in turbonetics yesterday and they said someone dropped a stock EB turbo off for them to check out. Not sure if they have anything in the works but at least someone is interested. Although there not really a small turbo preferred company. Their turbos are old skool. Just huge not really current generation technology so we will see. Could be laaaaagy if done that way

killerrudy

I would say that a liq/air intercooler would be a bad choice for our truck. That setup came on my Syclone and it is great for short runs aka track since you can actually get the liquid cooler than ambient air temp. But for towing which are trucks ARE made for they are a bad choice since heat soak can become greater than on the air/air.

Commander316

with no cats you'll notice a huge sound difference when the wastegates are dumping.. idle will be a little louder... personally, i would rather have high flow cats to prevent drone.. if there was someone who works for a performance company that could enlighten us on why that driver side pipe crosses over so drastically... i have a catback on my truck that i installed, so i know the factory pipe is the same way because of the crossmember, but there is room to have the pipe bent at less of a 90..

sholland96

Maybe that's just an improperly sized intercooler... I'm not sure if the Syclone shared the radiator or had a separate intercooler exchanger - that would make a big difference too.

Towing, low speed and/or restricted air is exactly where air-water intercoolers shine. If you're towing, you're probably going slower than normal anyway. An air-air intercooler also requires significant moving air to work well. In addition, an air-air intercooler is nowhere near as efficient as air-water, so it needs to be much larger, leading to even more volume (increased lag) and pressure drop (lost boost).

I used an air-water on an autocross car, and it was perfect, since I needed consistently low intake air temps right away, in one run, at low speed.

With that said, for best performance it does mean running a completely separate water circuit for the intercooler, but the exchnger can be quite small, smaller than the existing intercooler on the EB.

I will certainly try such a setup once the truck gets off warranty. I wouldn't want to jeopardize voiding my warranty for this unless I was racing, which I'm not .

taylori

putting bigger turbos on is the easy part. Getting more fuel will be the challenge. Designing new HP pumps to support extra boost. What are the limits of the stock injectors? How long before companies start making bigger injectors to support switching to e85 or bigger turbos/more boost. I could go out and weld up some piping and flanges then bolt bigger turbos to my truck even if I had the ability at the moment to make the pcm believe that the new set up is all well and good, I don't think the fuel system will support it.

mr_diggs

You could add a 7th injector to fuel larger turbos. You would have to shoot E85 through the extra injector though because it wouldn't be "direct injection". With 10.5:1 comp ratio and high boost.....you're going to need something mondo-resistant to detonation if you're going to be simply blasting fuel down the intake. I think.

DieselDawg

On my old 1988 RX-7 Turbo II (heavily modded...530hp at the rear wheels) I used a Miller-Woods fuel box with the injector mounted in the tube between the intercooler and throttle body. It added the extra fuel based on rpm/boost AND acted like a second intercooler. The pipe was cold on the trailing side of the extra injector.

They are no longer available but worked great for the time