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Old 06-30-2015, 12:09 PM
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Oh that was a good laugh. I got the same line too!
Old 06-30-2015, 09:56 PM
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The oil vapor and combustion byproducts collect the water in the CAC, do away with the oil vapor and combustion byproducts getting introduced to the CAC and by-by condensation problems. CAN the fresh air side to the turbo from the motor and drill the tiny hole in the CAC and your mostly good for the life of the vehicle.
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Originally Posted by BucketMan
Exactly. No intercooler is immune from this problem. Some are larger and flow differently which may require more moisture to actually induce the water ingestion problem, but as wrench stated, its science, youre not going to stop it.

I bought a second hand Wagner and it had a ton of moisture in it before I cleaned it.

Youre absolute best insurance is to drill a hole in your stock intercooler. Before doing so, remove it, drill the hole, clean it and reinstall it, that is the best solution to the problem. Although this may not totally resolve it as the moisture that causes the issue largely collects on the fins of the cooler and is swept into the intake upon boost. Knowing what causes the issue, being aware of your ambient conditions, occasionally getting into boost to keep it clean and drilling the hole is about as good as it gets.

Oh and the catch can has nothing to do with this.
Sorry-you are right on the catch can, so many issues, can't keep them straight. I did exactly what Bucketman suggested- took cooler off (not hard to do) cleaned it out, drilled the hole, put it back on.. fairly easy thing to do. Faster than changing plugs every 3 months.
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Originally Posted by Bfuller
Sorry-you are right on the catch can, so many issues, can't keep them straight. I did exactly what Bucketman suggested- took cooler off (not hard to do) cleaned it out, drilled the hole, put it back on.. fairly easy thing to do.
With the intercooler out you should have noticed the driver side feed to intercooler was slick with oil and passenger side feed was much cleaner. Explain that one away.

Saying there is only one root cause is not seeing the big picture. There is more than one thing contributing to the problem.

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Originally Posted by BucketMan
Exactly. No intercooler is immune from this problem. Some are larger and flow differently which may require more moisture to actually induce the water ingestion problem, but as wrench stated, its science, youre not going to stop it.

I bought a second hand Wagner and it had a ton of moisture in it before I cleaned it.

Youre absolute best insurance is to drill a hole in your stock intercooler. Before doing so, remove it, drill the hole, clean it and reinstall it, that is the best solution to the problem. Although this may not totally resolve it as the moisture that causes the issue largely collects on the fins of the cooler and is swept into the intake upon boost. Knowing what causes the issue, being aware of your ambient conditions, occasionally getting into boost to keep it clean and drilling the hole is about as good as it gets.

Oh and the catch can has nothing to do with this.
Did you drill a hole in your Wagner?
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Originally Posted by QwkTrip
With the intercooler out you should have noticed the driver side feed to intercooler was slick with oil and passenger side feed was much cleaner. Explain that one away.

Saying there is only one root cause is not seeing the big picture. There is more than one thing contributing to the problem.
The oil is not the problem, moisture is. Every engine that has a PCV valve re-burns the oil vapor produced in the crankcase. Yes the oil residue is visible in the pipe, every engine will have this. Will the oil cause carbon on the back of the valves? Probably. Ford seems to have less of a problem with this than the other manufacturers.
The biggest problem is the moisture that collects in the intercooler, the hole has corrected this problem for my truck and many others.
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The IC will condense water AND oil vapor and hold it until the engine can consume it in one big gulp.
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Originally Posted by oldwrench
The IC will condense water AND oil vapor and hold it until the engine can consume it in one big gulp.
How does oil vapor condense again...?
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Originally Posted by agetech
The oil is not the problem, moisture is. Every engine that has a PCV valve re-burns the oil vapor produced in the crankcase.
Both contribute to the problem. You are correct that PCV causes much of the crankcase vapors to enter the intake manifold and burned by the engine, but the Ecoboost is turbocharged so that sets up a reverse path back to the intake tube through the fresh air inlet.


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