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Old 03-19-2011, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by laketrout
Any graphs you can post?
Igot one at home but I don't have a scanner. I'll try to do it at work next week and post it up.
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Originally Posted by mykrrrr
Those kinds of statements are industry wide. Not new news to me.
I've been modding vehicles for over 10 years so I realize the consequences. I like reliable power within very safe A/F ratios. I'm not one to try to squeek the utmost power out of a vehicle.

I think I'm smart enough not to bring in a wounded car claiming that it's completely stock.
It sounds like Lidio might be your guy. He will tell you straight up that he does not tune for max hp. But for reliability. The guy really impressed me when I talked to him.
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I wonder if Ford is limiting the boost or timing a little during the first 500 miles or so. It would be a trivial programming matter to have a mildly "enforced" break-in period. A friend who bought an EB XLT a couple of weeks before I got mine told me he noticed a distinct change in the engine's perceived power right around the 500 mile mark. I just passed 500 miles a couple of days ago and have not had the opportunity to drive it other than a few miles at a time in fairly heavy city traffic, so I don't know if that's true or just his perception.
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15% losses works out to 374hp/408ft-lb, the hp looks like ford might be underrating, no idea why they would do that on the EB. same driveline losses, tq does look a bit low.
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Originally Posted by 11screw50
15% losses works out to 374hp/408ft-lb, the hp looks like ford might be underrating, no idea why they would do that on the EB. same driveline losses, tq does look a bit low.
I think you might be a little off a 15% loss would be 310hp and 357tq from a crank rating of 365hp and 420tq
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Originally Posted by n0xas
I wonder if Ford is limiting the boost or timing a little during the first 500 miles or so. It would be a trivial programming matter to have a mildly "enforced" break-in period. A friend who bought an EB XLT a couple of weeks before I got mine told me he noticed a distinct change in the engine's perceived power right around the 500 mile mark. I just passed 500 miles a couple of days ago and have not had the opportunity to drive it other than a few miles at a time in fairly heavy city traffic, so I don't know if that's true or just his perception.
I'd say it's more perception than anything but ya never know. Things do take a while to break in. Also could be using different octane fuel. Typically modern ECU's will change with lower or higher grades of fuel.

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15% losses works out to 374hp/408ft-lb, the hp looks like ford might be underrating, no idea why they would do that on the EB. same driveline losses, tq does look a bit low.
I'd gain HP and lose torque from driveline loss. Hate to say it but your math is wrong.

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Originally Posted by n0xas
I wonder if Ford is limiting the boost or timing a little during the first 500 miles or so. It would be a trivial programming matter to have a mildly "enforced" break-in period. A friend who bought an EB XLT a couple of weeks before I got mine told me he noticed a distinct change in the engine's perceived power right around the 500 mile mark. I just passed 500 miles a couple of days ago and have not had the opportunity to drive it other than a few miles at a time in fairly heavy city traffic, so I don't know if that's true or just his perception.
Several have said that the ecoboost is programmed to run rich to allow the engine to break in for 3000 miles, then the ECU will turn on full power. So I would like to see the truck dynoed again around 3000 miles and see if that is true
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Originally Posted by mykrrrr
Just picked up my '11 EcoBoost XLT on Wednesday.
Took truck to Livernois Motorsports in Dearborn Hgts MI to get it baselined before I get a handheld tuner/tune (when available)

318 RWHP and 347 ft/lbs of torque.

I'm pretty pleased with those numbers.
Shouldn't u be breaking it in before you just hop on the power figures? I'm pretty sure that doesn't help your break in period...
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Originally Posted by Bob_Mac
It is low...Ford specs are:

  • Horsepower 365 @ 5000 rpm
    Torque 420 @ 2500 rpm
Ever heard of flywheel hp and wheel hp?
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Originally Posted by BigRedBlur
I think you might be a little off a 15% loss would be 310hp and 357tq from a crank rating of 365hp and 420tq

sure, that is what the theoretical numbers at the wheels would be based on the published numbers, I took the actual numbers he got at the wheels and divided by 0.85. I did hit a 4 instead of a 3, should have been 373hp.


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