EB High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP) Issues?
#21
Troll? Wow. That's got to be the warmest welcome I've ever received! lol.
Well it's nice to meet you too....
borjeb & F150Man3.5 - exactly. So I searched the problem and decided to go the latter route this time and this thread was the first I saw. Not a biggie. I coulda started a new thread with the exact same title, maybe the Centex Guy woulda been happier with that. No biggie.
Anyway, for those of you who wish to read this thread, have at her. If not - whatever.
I definately wasn't trying to start a panic or something, just letting you guys know what's going on with my truck. More FYI than anything else. Other than this, I love it. No complaints. Well, except the traction control is super aggressive, but I can understand, it's made for the 90% (of the public who can't drive). But I digress...
But based on what 2 mechanics and the service manager have told me here at our dealership in a small town in Northern Ontario, this isn't the first pump they've replaced.
I was going to take it in after I changed the oil @ 9000k, but I know exactly how the conversation would have gone. You hafta have a light on before they can do anything under warranty. Anyway, I'm not too concerned about it, the dealership here is great about warranty stuff, the way a dealer should be. Seriously. That's one of the reasons I bought another Ford.
Bottom line is that if you suspect that your oil level is getting higher and your oil smells like gas, take it in as soon as you get the Check Engine Light. Diluted oil (even synthetic) isn't good for anything.
One last thing for Centex - it's not a fuel pump failure, the pump is working great - pushing fuel past a failed gasket or seal into the oil.
I'll keep you posted on it though.
Rob
Well it's nice to meet you too....
borjeb & F150Man3.5 - exactly. So I searched the problem and decided to go the latter route this time and this thread was the first I saw. Not a biggie. I coulda started a new thread with the exact same title, maybe the Centex Guy woulda been happier with that. No biggie.
Anyway, for those of you who wish to read this thread, have at her. If not - whatever.
I definately wasn't trying to start a panic or something, just letting you guys know what's going on with my truck. More FYI than anything else. Other than this, I love it. No complaints. Well, except the traction control is super aggressive, but I can understand, it's made for the 90% (of the public who can't drive). But I digress...
But based on what 2 mechanics and the service manager have told me here at our dealership in a small town in Northern Ontario, this isn't the first pump they've replaced.
I was going to take it in after I changed the oil @ 9000k, but I know exactly how the conversation would have gone. You hafta have a light on before they can do anything under warranty. Anyway, I'm not too concerned about it, the dealership here is great about warranty stuff, the way a dealer should be. Seriously. That's one of the reasons I bought another Ford.
Bottom line is that if you suspect that your oil level is getting higher and your oil smells like gas, take it in as soon as you get the Check Engine Light. Diluted oil (even synthetic) isn't good for anything.
One last thing for Centex - it's not a fuel pump failure, the pump is working great - pushing fuel past a failed gasket or seal into the oil.
I'll keep you posted on it though.
Rob
#22
Member
Thread Starter
Yay my old thread revived!
Thank you for using the search function.
I have not encountered too many more long cranks...maybe 1x every few months. I have also not encountered any fuel smell in my 2 synthetic oil changes thus far.
However, if anyone does experience some sort of symptoms commonly associated with HPFP failure I'd love to hear your experiences.
Thank you for using the search function.
I have not encountered too many more long cranks...maybe 1x every few months. I have also not encountered any fuel smell in my 2 synthetic oil changes thus far.
However, if anyone does experience some sort of symptoms commonly associated with HPFP failure I'd love to hear your experiences.
#23
Inebriated 4 ur safety
Sorry to go off topic, but I LMFAO twice on your avatar. Nice!
#24
Troll? Wow. That's got to be the warmest welcome I've ever received! lol.
Well it's nice to meet you too....
borjeb & F150Man3.5 - exactly. So I searched the problem and decided to go the latter route this time and this thread was the first I saw. Not a biggie. I coulda started a new thread with the exact same title, maybe the Centex Guy woulda been happier with that. No biggie.
Anyway, for those of you who wish to read this thread, have at her. If not - whatever.
I definately wasn't trying to start a panic or something, just letting you guys know what's going on with my truck. More FYI than anything else. Other than this, I love it. No complaints. Well, except the traction control is super aggressive, but I can understand, it's made for the 90% (of the public who can't drive). But I digress...
But based on what 2 mechanics and the service manager have told me here at our dealership in a small town in Northern Ontario, this isn't the first pump they've replaced.
I was going to take it in after I changed the oil @ 9000k, but I know exactly how the conversation would have gone. You hafta have a light on before they can do anything under warranty. Anyway, I'm not too concerned about it, the dealership here is great about warranty stuff, the way a dealer should be. Seriously. That's one of the reasons I bought another Ford.
Bottom line is that if you suspect that your oil level is getting higher and your oil smells like gas, take it in as soon as you get the Check Engine Light. Diluted oil (even synthetic) isn't good for anything.
One last thing for Centex - it's not a fuel pump failure, the pump is working great - pushing fuel past a failed gasket or seal into the oil.
I'll keep you posted on it though.
Rob
Well it's nice to meet you too....
borjeb & F150Man3.5 - exactly. So I searched the problem and decided to go the latter route this time and this thread was the first I saw. Not a biggie. I coulda started a new thread with the exact same title, maybe the Centex Guy woulda been happier with that. No biggie.
Anyway, for those of you who wish to read this thread, have at her. If not - whatever.
I definately wasn't trying to start a panic or something, just letting you guys know what's going on with my truck. More FYI than anything else. Other than this, I love it. No complaints. Well, except the traction control is super aggressive, but I can understand, it's made for the 90% (of the public who can't drive). But I digress...
But based on what 2 mechanics and the service manager have told me here at our dealership in a small town in Northern Ontario, this isn't the first pump they've replaced.
I was going to take it in after I changed the oil @ 9000k, but I know exactly how the conversation would have gone. You hafta have a light on before they can do anything under warranty. Anyway, I'm not too concerned about it, the dealership here is great about warranty stuff, the way a dealer should be. Seriously. That's one of the reasons I bought another Ford.
Bottom line is that if you suspect that your oil level is getting higher and your oil smells like gas, take it in as soon as you get the Check Engine Light. Diluted oil (even synthetic) isn't good for anything.
One last thing for Centex - it's not a fuel pump failure, the pump is working great - pushing fuel past a failed gasket or seal into the oil.
I'll keep you posted on it though.
Rob
Thank you
#25
See? It works in monkeys!
So... Are we allowed to talk about this?
I hear "Bosch HPFP" and think of my previous vehicle (2011 VW Golf Sportwagen TDI) and all the drama around it. I had 60k on mine when I traded it with nary a problem...
I know there were issues with the 335i pumps but something tells me lessons have been learned. With any mass-produced product there is a failure rate greater than zero.
I hear "Bosch HPFP" and think of my previous vehicle (2011 VW Golf Sportwagen TDI) and all the drama around it. I had 60k on mine when I traded it with nary a problem...
I know there were issues with the 335i pumps but something tells me lessons have been learned. With any mass-produced product there is a failure rate greater than zero.
#26
Hey boys;
Mass Media - No worries, I wasn't referring to your post. And it may be just my truck (or a very few). But you are exactly right, it would be a huge problem if it was happening alot and it would be all over the boards.
And I just had a closer look at your avatar and Al Kohalic is right on the money, funny as hell.... LMFAO x2
msportworld - that's what search is for! - Good to hear your oil is, well... Oily again. Hey, just outta curiousity, did you have a gas smell around the truck (sometimes in the cabin) at idle before your repair or since? I have a hint of it occasionally, but not consistently. Dunno if it could be related.
The mechanic on my hockey team jumped ship to the GM dealer in town about a month ago and told me that some of the GM direct injection engines are having similar problems... I forget which cars, but more than one model.
When I was searching for a thread, I read a couple of others (always get sidetracked on interesting stuff...) and one of the threads I had a peek at talked about how most car and truck owners are happy with their purchases, and never have any issues at all... Poster said something like 90% of owners don't even join forums or don't post if they join, and something like 1% of 1% post issues and they get blown waaaaay outta proportion on the internet. And it's true.
I had a '02 F150 before this truck, owned it from new til last year, never had any real problems, and never joined an online owners club about it....
Anyway, I'll post again after the repair is completed, let you know what's up.
Later,
Rob
Mass Media - No worries, I wasn't referring to your post. And it may be just my truck (or a very few). But you are exactly right, it would be a huge problem if it was happening alot and it would be all over the boards.
And I just had a closer look at your avatar and Al Kohalic is right on the money, funny as hell.... LMFAO x2
msportworld - that's what search is for! - Good to hear your oil is, well... Oily again. Hey, just outta curiousity, did you have a gas smell around the truck (sometimes in the cabin) at idle before your repair or since? I have a hint of it occasionally, but not consistently. Dunno if it could be related.
The mechanic on my hockey team jumped ship to the GM dealer in town about a month ago and told me that some of the GM direct injection engines are having similar problems... I forget which cars, but more than one model.
When I was searching for a thread, I read a couple of others (always get sidetracked on interesting stuff...) and one of the threads I had a peek at talked about how most car and truck owners are happy with their purchases, and never have any issues at all... Poster said something like 90% of owners don't even join forums or don't post if they join, and something like 1% of 1% post issues and they get blown waaaaay outta proportion on the internet. And it's true.
I had a '02 F150 before this truck, owned it from new til last year, never had any real problems, and never joined an online owners club about it....
Anyway, I'll post again after the repair is completed, let you know what's up.
Later,
Rob
#27
Senior Member
Bump, If many people has had the seals replaced.
I'm starting to suspect mine to be leaking. I had about 50 miles on the last oil change when my oil was overfull and actually pushing oil into the cylinders. And again at 700 miles into this oil change the oil level is up to the bend and i seen blue smoke on a start up. It is currently at the dealership to see what they can find. But it literally just started doing this. Oil level never changed until a month ago, now it is filling an inch or two over the full level within 700 miles.
I'm starting to suspect mine to be leaking. I had about 50 miles on the last oil change when my oil was overfull and actually pushing oil into the cylinders. And again at 700 miles into this oil change the oil level is up to the bend and i seen blue smoke on a start up. It is currently at the dealership to see what they can find. But it literally just started doing this. Oil level never changed until a month ago, now it is filling an inch or two over the full level within 700 miles.
#29
I think I may be having an issue with my HPFP. I bought the truck about 2 months ago. 4 times now I have started the truck it idles a little bit rough but not terrible. However when I put it in gear to go, it doesn't move. Will not accelerate at all. Engine doesn't even rev, it just gets a rougher idle. Put it in park and same thing won't rev. I turn off the ignition and fire it up again. After a longer than normal cranking time it works like normal. Today it did it and took several restarts and letting it sit turned off for a while, before it ran normal. It also has the hiccup or miss, most times when I try to accelerate hard to pass and from a start. Is there a way to test this part, or determine if it is the HPFP vs the normal pump? The way its acting leads me to believe its definitely a fuel problem.
#30
Senior Member
Troll? Wow. That's got to be the warmest welcome I've ever received! lol.
Well it's nice to meet you too....
borjeb & F150Man3.5 - exactly. So I searched the problem and decided to go the latter route this time and this thread was the first I saw. Not a biggie. I coulda started a new thread with the exact same title, maybe the Centex Guy woulda been happier with that. No biggie.
Anyway, for those of you who wish to read this thread, have at her. If not - whatever.
I definately wasn't trying to start a panic or something, just letting you guys know what's going on with my truck. More FYI than anything else. Other than this, I love it. No complaints. Well, except the traction control is super aggressive, but I can understand, it's made for the 90% (of the public who can't drive). But I digress...
But based on what 2 mechanics and the service manager have told me here at our dealership in a small town in Northern Ontario, this isn't the first pump they've replaced.
I was going to take it in after I changed the oil @ 9000k, but I know exactly how the conversation would have gone. You hafta have a light on before they can do anything under warranty. Anyway, I'm not too concerned about it, the dealership here is great about warranty stuff, the way a dealer should be. Seriously. That's one of the reasons I bought another Ford.
Bottom line is that if you suspect that your oil level is getting higher and your oil smells like gas, take it in as soon as you get the Check Engine Light. Diluted oil (even synthetic) isn't good for anything.
One last thing for Centex - it's not a fuel pump failure, the pump is working great - pushing fuel past a failed gasket or seal into the oil.
I'll keep you posted on it though.
Rob
Well it's nice to meet you too....
borjeb & F150Man3.5 - exactly. So I searched the problem and decided to go the latter route this time and this thread was the first I saw. Not a biggie. I coulda started a new thread with the exact same title, maybe the Centex Guy woulda been happier with that. No biggie.
Anyway, for those of you who wish to read this thread, have at her. If not - whatever.
I definately wasn't trying to start a panic or something, just letting you guys know what's going on with my truck. More FYI than anything else. Other than this, I love it. No complaints. Well, except the traction control is super aggressive, but I can understand, it's made for the 90% (of the public who can't drive). But I digress...
But based on what 2 mechanics and the service manager have told me here at our dealership in a small town in Northern Ontario, this isn't the first pump they've replaced.
I was going to take it in after I changed the oil @ 9000k, but I know exactly how the conversation would have gone. You hafta have a light on before they can do anything under warranty. Anyway, I'm not too concerned about it, the dealership here is great about warranty stuff, the way a dealer should be. Seriously. That's one of the reasons I bought another Ford.
Bottom line is that if you suspect that your oil level is getting higher and your oil smells like gas, take it in as soon as you get the Check Engine Light. Diluted oil (even synthetic) isn't good for anything.
One last thing for Centex - it's not a fuel pump failure, the pump is working great - pushing fuel past a failed gasket or seal into the oil.
I'll keep you posted on it though.
Rob