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Old 10-01-2014, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ecopat
when I mentioned that to the dealer, they told me it was "turbo lag"
so it's no surprise that the average Joe might think it is too...
Well sure cause the dealer knows it all

Point to something that they can claim it "is just the way it is" as opposed to digging into it or educating themselves is kinda how the dealers do it sometimes, well ok, most times.

If you are going to buy a turbocharged vehicle, as with any vehicle you buy, it pays in a BIG way to educate yourself so you aren't just the average Joe that might believe whatever the dealer might tell you. I've been around turbo vehicles for more than half my life and have driven vehicles with 90-100mm turbos w/ 6" intakes and 6" exhausts. Now THAT is turbo lag
Old 10-01-2014, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ford850
I have this same thing on my 5.0, and it is tough to get used to it. Why do automakers do this? I know it is common on other brands too. Is it to protect the transmission?
There is a great deal of reasoning behind this, but the most basic reasoning is that they are trying to protect people from themselves. By this i mean they are preventing people from inadvertently spinning the tires, damaging driveline components due to wheelhop, and of course, other possible "dangerous" scenarios.

We also offer some excellent custom tunes and additional modifications for the 5.0L platform as well. The F150 5.0L trucks really come to life once tuned and also combined with a cold air intake make a great impact on performance, throttle response, and improved fuel economy as well. We typically see gains in upwards of 25-30 wheel HP depending on supporting mods and octane. The transmission changes alone make the truck feel like a completely different animal.
Old 10-01-2014, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TJPlatinumEB
So glad someone intelligent finally asked about this and didn't whine and complain about the perceived "turbo lag" that many of the other people who post about this claim that it is. Kudos to the OP for being educated about it before blindly blaming a turbo lag issue that simply isn't there in the EB.


I've owned turbo cars before and turbo lag is a completely different sensation as opposed to having a delay between the pedal and the engine. I specifically bought the eco because turbo engines are typically easier to get some good gains with minimal mods.




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I have this same thing on my 5.0, and it is tough to get used to it. Why do automakers do this? I know it is common on other brands too. Is it to protect the transmission?


From what I have seen it helps with emissions and fuel economy (probably also helps protect the driveline to some degree as well). Instead of the computer being reactive to the throttle it can be proactive and make adjustments accordingly which is supposed to help with emissions and fuel economy. They also claim it's used for torque management which I'm assuming helps with driveline shock (especially on the eco where all the torque comes on so quick). I read this on the internet so take it with a grain of salt but it makes sense.
Old 10-02-2014, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by twotoilets
It couldn't hurt to try this, it made a difference on my 5.0L


I wish they would make a "STICKY" about this procedure, there are so many people that are saying this and saying that about what if will do and what it won't do....here are the facts:
If your vehicle has throttle lag and it doesn't matter if it's with wire or without wire this procedure will fix the lag, it will fix any throttle body TPS scale 0 - 100% on all fuel injected vehicles. If you don't have the lag then it does nothing for you but if you still do, it will not hurt anything and if it does then you already had something wrong with your vehicle.

Put key in the ignition and turn to the "ON POSITION" do not start motor!
If you did accidently start the motor just cut it off and start over...no big deal!
Key to "ON POSITION"
Wait for the chimes(bells/whistle’s to stop) then press the pedal to the floor slowly, once you hit the floorboard let the pedal back up quickly, now turn the key to the "OFF POSITION". Now you can do this procedure two more times or you can start the motor and go for a ride and see if it fix the lag, if it didn't try doing it again but do this procedure a total of three time before starting the motor and going for a ride.
I have done this procedure to motorcycles/cars and trucks.....on a motorcycle Kill switch in "OFF POSITION" "key to "ON POSITION" Now switch the Kill switch to "ON POSITION" ,Now rotate the throttle to full open and quickly return to closed.....switch kill switch to off and turn key to off, now do this two more times and you're ready to ride.


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This works on any Ford or Lincoln vehicle, it is the calibration procedure for the DBW. It calibrates the pedal position to the TB position and takes most or all the slack or dead spot out of it.
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ECU will learn your driving style. Dumpty-Dump daily driving. Disconnect battery to reset an then drive it sporty.
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My girl friend bought a nice looking F150 & I like driving it but the lack of throttle response is going to KILL me.
Yes I mean kill me, I'm used to fast throttle response but as I drive her truck & I pull out & expect it to go then it acts up. It will accelerate up to 40 mph then it pauses about ever 100 rpm as it slowly speeds up. Pulling out in 70 mph heavy traffic has lead to some scary situations, it's not a turbo.
I have replaced the TPR on the throttle body& the gas peddle & done the pulling the battery cable then touching it to the other terminal for two min. (my local mechanic told me to do that to reset it. Even after retraining the truck it still has problems mostly when the AC is on sitting in slow traffic but when I pull onto the highway it slowly speeds up. (it takes about 20 to 30 sec to get up to 70 mph) when the traffic going by is moving at 75 to 80 mph.
I'm going to try Twotoilets suggestion to get it going next time I get a chance.
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Originally Posted by Mustang Driver
My girl friend bought a nice looking F150 & I like driving it but the lack of throttle response is going to KILL me.
Yes I mean kill me, I'm used to fast throttle response but as I drive her truck & I pull out & expect it to go then it acts up. It will accelerate up to 40 mph then it pauses about ever 100 rpm as it slowly speeds up. Pulling out in 70 mph heavy traffic has lead to some scary situations, it's not a turbo.
I have replaced the TPR on the throttle body& the gas peddle & done the pulling the battery cable then touching it to the other terminal for two min. (my local mechanic told me to do that to reset it. Even after retraining the truck it still has problems mostly when the AC is on sitting in slow traffic but when I pull onto the highway it slowly speeds up. (it takes about 20 to 30 sec to get up to 70 mph) when the traffic going by is moving at 75 to 80 mph.
I'm going to try Twotoilets suggestion to get it going next time I get a chance.
First off, you're responding to a thread that is 7 years old. Second, it sounds like your truck may be having some other issue. My 5.0 doesn't respond like that at all. I've been very happy with the performance, though i would like to get it tuned at some point.
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