Wilkinz027

Good to hear it's still in the works. Huge demand is all the more reason to get done! Think of all the money! But it's good to see you guys take the time to get it right before releasing to market.

Full-Race Geoff

I can not conclusively comment on any of the forum motors that have blown and blocks with holes/windows in them. Obviously we've had outstanding results with our truck and flogged the crap out of the stock motor on knock-happy 91 octane fuel. Everyone knows those engine failures could be a variety of things, but the fact remains a stock 3.5L ecoboost block is plenty strong... I wouldnt part your truck out just yet. In my experience, when dealing with engine failures like this, more often than not it is wristpin/piston failure which causes the rod to poke thru - either from a combination of bad gas/knock or over aggressive tuning.. or maybe even "luck of the draw" when making this many quantity of one part? I can't say

anybody looking to modify these engines and make serious power on low octane pump gas, the pistons are going to be the weak point. I dont think most guys realize how poor quality pump-gasoline has become in this country. As turbo engines become more powerful the gas is getting ****tier.. so the computer has to try and manage that. While it's not quick nor easy to drop in forged pistons, I expect guys who want to mod to higher power levels on crap pumpgas, will be doing this in a couple years and using methanol or ethanol injection on top of it, that is pretty much the only way to make big safe power on pump

agreed

the 2.7L Nano engine is very exciting to me, particularly the CGI engine blcok construction and the fact that it uses standard rotation 51mm turbos on integrated manifolds... I can't wait to put a pair of EFR's on there!

the F150's bosch computer typically responds to knock by pulling ~5-7 degrees of timing advance across the board and not adding it back in until the engine is turned off and restarted (for safety). Ideally we want to be close to zero knock, so you are running the timing map that's intended... but as you go on long trips and fill up at different gas stations, the quality and knock resistance of the fuel varies dramatically. so a given tune which may not knock anywhere in your hometown, go drive thru new mexico or northern AZ (horrendous fuel) and then the truck may see some knock counts, and pull timing. as long as its very low I wouldnt be concerned, but this is definitely something that anyone with a tuned or untuned ecoboost may want to be aware of. its pretty easy to monitor knock counts with an obd2 port


yes the demand is big and the potential for sales is also there.. but that isnt what motivates us. We've been in the aftermarket world of turbocharging for a long time, and our desire is first and foremost to get things 100% right. everything else will follow. I know *how* to do it, making it happen the way I want is another thing entirely. brand new technologies and partnerships are coming together while the manufacturing infrastructures need to mature. It will happen, and there is no way to rush it. This 3.5L V6 is one of the more difficult vehicles and platforms to develop parts for, but when you get it right this package responds soo well to mods that we wont be walking away any time soon.

Eco-BEAST 28

Can anyone help out a fellow forum member looking to remove the device in the pic thats right above the cold side pipe opening in this picture. He is trying to install a FR intercooler on a 2013. I don't remember this from my install i am unable to help right now but i hope one of you can.

JR68

Thanks Eco Beast. Got that part figured out. Went to install the intercooler mounting beam and it is not wide enough. The holes do no line up. Off by 1/4 inch. Unbelievable!!!

XFJunkie

Mine I had to pull apart and flex it a little and I got mine to fit.

JR68

Flex the bar?

Full-Race Geoff

every one of our CAC mounting beams is made on a fixture that identically duplicates our 2013 F150. The tabs have slightly oversized holes to accomodate the change in tolerance found on the various 2011/2012 F150's we measured in our shop. If your vehicle is on the "big end" of the width spectrum, then it is perfectly acceptable to drill out the tabs a little more. We tried to hold a tight tolerance, so i guess in your case it is too close. If this is an issue for others please let me know and we will use a larger diameter hole here, or go to a slot (I dont love either option because it can introduce some slop - however your input is noted)

if you look at the stock bracket, there are giant slots in it:


thanks

geno51

Man that looks familiar

Haven't talked in a while hope all is well! Work has been NUTS

Eco-BEAST 28

Well it looks as though we have a new product up on the website!!

http://www.full-race.com/store/ecobo...ooler-kit.html

Hopefully Geoff will stop in and let us know what else is in the works as well.

snowking47

So I have been absent from the forum for a couple months now and have a couple questions? ( sorry if I missed them )

- Is a ecoboost cold air intake still in the works? or did full race decide its not a big enough HP improvement?

-Do you need to call to order an exhaust shipped to canada?

- Are the full races tunes still in the works ( I have SCT Livewire )

-also does it matter if you take out the swirly things in the intake out? are they for sound volume or to change air flow?

Thanks Mike