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Old 04-29-2014, 06:49 PM
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Today I received an email survey from Quick Lane about the recent service I had. (This was where I was told I had serious carbon build up in the engine and needed a $199 service.) I filled out the form saying I was confused about that whole issue and did not feel satisfied with the encounter.

What to my surprise but 5 minutes later I get a call from the Service Manager at the Ford dealership offering more information about the issue, the technology that diagnosed the problem, and a free service to clean the engine.

I drove down there and got a look at the software that they are using. It is called AutoEKG. Here is a blurb about it I found on a pro service site.

Thanks to new technology, carbon build-up can be detected without taking anything apart on the vehicle. At the cutting edge of carbon build-up detection is the combustion performance tool (CPT) developed by Thompson Automotive Labs, and the AutoEKG, developed by Automotive Test Solutions and exclusively available for lease from ITW Professional Automotive Products.
The tools fundamentally perform the same task, but work a little bit differently. Both tools use a pressure transducer in the exhaust pipe (See Figs. 2A and 2B) that measures irregularities in exhaust pulses in order to detect carbon build-up. The AutoEKG also uses an antenna on top of the engine to assist in its calculations. The computers in these tools then determine how bad the carbon build-up is in a vehicle, using a one to 10 scale.


I was told that all the gas in our area comes from the same supplier but that Chevron and Shell are the only ones that filter it and add additives that prevent carbon buildup. That avoiding cheap gas should prevent this problem from recurring. Alternative would be to use additive such as Techron on a regular basis.



Will be interesting to see the computer read out at the next service. Needless to say I was very pleased with today's encounter with Lithia Ford in Boise. What are your thoughts?



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Originally Posted by jerry233
Today I received an email survey from Quick Lane about the recent service I had. (This was where I was told I had serious carbon build up in the engine and needed a $199 service.) I filled out the form saying I was confused about that whole issue and did not feel satisfied with the encounter.

What to my surprise but 5 minutes later I get a call from the Service Manager at the Ford dealership offering more information about the issue, the technology that diagnosed the problem, and a free service to clean the engine.

I drove down there and got a look at the software that they are using. It is called AutoEKG. Here is a blurb about it I found on a pro service site.

Thanks to new technology, carbon build-up can be detected without taking anything apart on the vehicle. At the cutting edge of carbon build-up detection is the combustion performance tool (CPT) developed by Thompson Automotive Labs, and the AutoEKG, developed by Automotive Test Solutions and exclusively available for lease from ITW Professional Automotive Products.
The tools fundamentally perform the same task, but work a little bit differently. Both tools use a pressure transducer in the exhaust pipe (See Figs. 2A and 2B) that measures irregularities in exhaust pulses in order to detect carbon build-up. The AutoEKG also uses an antenna on top of the engine to assist in its calculations. The computers in these tools then determine how bad the carbon build-up is in a vehicle, using a one to 10 scale.

I was told that all the gas in our area comes from the same supplier but that Chevron and Shell are the only ones that filter it and add additives that prevent carbon buildup. That avoiding cheap gas should prevent this problem from recurring. Alternative would be to use additive such as Techron on a regular basis.


Will be interesting to see the computer read out at the next service. Needless to say I was very pleased with today's encounter with Lithia Ford in Boise. What are your thoughts?


Jerry
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You know those computers at the state fair with flashing lights that spit out your fortune? Yea. That is what your dealer bought. And they use it to sell you stuff you don't need.
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Originally Posted by jerry233
Today I received an email survey from Quick Lane about the recent service I had. (This was where I was told I had serious carbon build up in the engine and needed a $199 service.) I filled out the form saying I was confused about that whole issue and did not feel satisfied with the encounter.

What to my surprise but 5 minutes later I get a call from the Service Manager at the Ford dealership offering more information about the issue, the technology that diagnosed the problem, and a free service to clean the engine.

I drove down there and got a look at the software that they are using. It is called AutoEKG. Here is a blurb about it I found on a pro service site.

Thanks to new technology, carbon build-up can be detected without taking anything apart on the vehicle. At the cutting edge of carbon build-up detection is the combustion performance tool (CPT) developed by Thompson Automotive Labs, and the AutoEKG, developed by Automotive Test Solutions and exclusively available for lease from ITW Professional Automotive Products.
The tools fundamentally perform the same task, but work a little bit differently. Both tools use a pressure transducer in the exhaust pipe (See Figs. 2A and 2B) that measures irregularities in exhaust pulses in order to detect carbon build-up. The AutoEKG also uses an antenna on top of the engine to assist in its calculations. The computers in these tools then determine how bad the carbon build-up is in a vehicle, using a one to 10 scale.


I was told that all the gas in our area comes from the same supplier but that Chevron and Shell are the only ones that filter it and add additives that prevent carbon buildup. That avoiding cheap gas should prevent this problem from recurring. Alternative would be to use additive such as Techron on a regular basis.



Will be interesting to see the computer read out at the next service. Needless to say I was very pleased with today's encounter with Lithia Ford in Boise. What are your thoughts?



Jerry
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Originally Posted by packplantpath
You know those computers at the state fair with flashing lights that spit out your fortune? Yea. That is what your dealer bought. And they use it to sell you stuff you don't need.
My thoughts? What this guy said ^^^ except apparently leased.

Also, it would be interesting to do the cleaning yourself and take it back and see if it changed, then laugh because it probably would read the same.
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After I installed my catch can code popped up O2's lean at idle both banks. Reset codes and they came right back. Disconnected battery and cleaned terminals. Been ok now for 12,000 miles. My deduction is no more gas in the oil rich idle problem. Maybe others can contribute better data.
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Originally Posted by papa tiger
After I installed my catch can code popped up O2's lean at idle both banks. Reset codes and they came right back. Disconnected battery and cleaned terminals. Been ok now for 12,000 miles. My deduction is no more gas in the oil rich idle problem. Maybe others can contribute better data.
Or a vacuum leak.

Found this, pay attention in the beginning.



And this, looks like really heavy use of seafoam:


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