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Old 01-12-2014, 04:24 PM   #21
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........all of our trucks carry between 500-1000lbs on a daily basis and I generated my own fleet maintenance schedule for drivers to follow. Here is a sample of some of our service intervals..... Oil change intervals are every 6000-8000km's Transmission service intervals - every 70,000km's Rear diff inspection and service (if required) - every 50,000km Air filters - every 25,000km tune-up (plugs) every 100,000km .........I don't know what I can do to prevent these timing chains from breaking though????? And like I said - The replacement timing chain is thicker/stronger looking than the original. Not sure what the 2012's and 13's will have???
What kind of oil are you using? And oil specialist in the states recommends honda h06 for the Eco just for the timing chains. Where you are a fleet in Canada I assume your using Dino 5w30 because synthetic is not required in Canada. Maybe in your own truck switch to penzoil Platium .
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Old 01-12-2014, 04:27 PM   #22
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....I have 4 trucks with 3.7. They all have been excellent so far.......but the 4 guys driving them are guys who definitely aren't hard on a truck.
i can't comment on the timing chains as i simply don't have anything worth adding.

but as far as the differentials go clutch packs are a wearable item and ment to be replaced.

they may be replaced sooner or they can be replaced later depending on how the truck is used and driven.
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....I have 4 trucks with 3.7. They all have been excellent so far.......but the 4 guys driving them are guys who definitely aren't hard on a truck.


sounds like there needs to be 2 changes,, change the trucks from EB to 3.7 and change the attitudes of the guys that drive your trucks. I know some guys will have no respect but if you tie there raises to truck repair costs then they might be more careful in driving your trucks.
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http://www.pceo.com/node/262

Came across this article today and thought it was interesting given the subject at hand
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http://www.pceo.com/node/262 Came across this article today and thought it was interesting given the subject at hand
It seems that there is an agreement among manufacturers about timing chain problems. In the article Ford is even providing the test bed for evaluation of a new API standard. It appears the unique conditions of GDI and GTDI challenge lubricants and filtration. The video is interesting too.
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It seems that there is an agreement among manufacturers about timing chain problems. In the article Ford is even providing the test bed for evaluation of a new API standard. It appears the unique conditions of GDI and GTDI challenge lubricants and filtration. The video is interesting too.
interesting.

things are starting to make sense. some of you may not be aware of this but the earlier 3.5 ecoboosts ran 5w20. ford later switched it to 5w30. i wonder if the timing chain had anything to do with it.
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I noticed a couple of odd things that I can't help but share.

- Its a fleet of 57 regular cab ecoboost f150's. I've known you could get these since the start, but have yet to see one in real life. They start at $29 for a stripped one and all of the '11's have the max tow package, allowing the full 11,300 towing capacity. The only ones with the LSD rear have 3.73's, making it basically an ugly looking but equally performing version of the tremor. Interesting choice for a fleet of 57 hauling a light payload.

- Chris74 joined this month and posted that 17 of his 57 eb's had major engine damage. ChrisC74 also joined this month complaining his brand new platinum (EB no less) crapped out with only 1000 miles on the clock.

Not impossible, but an interesting coincidence for sure.

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How many here have had rear ends go out on their F150s 2011 or newer?
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Something fishy is going on here. I am on two F-150 forums and haven't seen a single post about timing chain failures on any F-150. Now there are two different ones all from low post users on the first page. The EB is based on the Ford Duratech series motors which have been used since the early 90s. The 3.7L is very similar in layout to the EB too. If there was an issue with the timing chains it would have surfaced a while ago and should apply to both V6s.
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It is good information, but needs to have other factors considered.
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