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Old 04-19-2014, 08:19 AM   #41
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They cannot void the warranty simply because you added a part. If you neglect that part and it fails, and that failure causes damage to another part that would have been covered, then yes that neglect could void the warranty repair on the damaged OEM part. No different than if you added a bug deflector to your hood. It doesn't affect the warranty. But if it detaches, flies into and cracks your windshield, the damage is not covered by warranty.
I have a UPR can on my 5.0 and recently had it at the dealer for oil change etc. I wasn't hauled away by the blue oval police, and the SM didn't rip up my warranty. Service guys like to see vehicles that are cared for, and a catch can helps keep an engine clean.
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Wow there is a lot if back and forth here.

I can see both sides of this argument for sure.

I am in Canada and have placed a call into ford canada. I am waiting to hear back. I will send them the link and information on the catch can. I will pay a ford technician to install it IF they will provide me written confirmation that my warranty will not be affected.


I will keep everyone in the loop.

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They cannot void the warranty simply because you added a part. If you neglect that part and it fails, and that failure causes damage to another part that would have been covered, then yes that neglect could void the warranty repair on the damaged OEM part. No different than if you added a bug deflector to your hood. It doesn't affect the warranty. But if it detaches, flies into and cracks your windshield, the damage is not covered by warranty. I have a UPR can on my 5.0 and recently had it at the dealer for oil change etc. I wasn't hauled away by the blue oval police, and the SM didn't rip up my warranty. Service guys like to see vehicles that are cared for, and a catch can helps keep an engine clean.
No one is saying just the act of installing one will void the warranty. He's saying that if a part comes loose or something becomes plugged in or because of the catch can, then you'll have a fight on your hands. He's arguing exactly what you stated above.
Problem is, Tuner argues that it won't affect warranty at all and calls him a lier. You all know what automakers are like, if they can prove something was your fault and get out of warranty work, they will certainly try.
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You wouldn't make a warranty claim unless something is broken correct? @Ford850 either way I just dont want people fooled by someone pretending to be an authority making completely false claims. Catch cans are great products and they can help quite a bit but if you install them, install @ your own risk as in if something breaks be ready to pay out of pocket. Unfortunately with this setup you make a permanent modification which is not reversible and honestly will be a major red flag for a dealership to search harder both in the ecu and the engine bay to see what is else was tampered with. But like I said originally if @ tunerboost and @ papatiger wanna call ford and get it in writing that it won't void your warranty then there we go we all win.
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And I am sure that they would be very happy to warranty your IC and everything that goes with it AFTER you have drilled a hole in it? Funny how that dosen't get mentioned!
Everyone has to make decisions that best suits their situation, but I find it rather amusing that some Ford customers get their panties in a wad about warranty when I will guarantee you that Ford could care less about the condition of your vehicle AFTER your warranty has run out!
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And I am sure that they would be very happy to warranty your IC and everything that goes with it AFTER you have drilled a hole in it? Funny how that dosen't get mentioned! Everyone has to make decisions that best suits their situation, but I find it rather amusing that some Ford customers get their panties in a wad about warranty when I will guarantee you that Ford could care less about the condition of your vehicle AFTER your warranty has run out!
Oh, is this thread about the hole?

I don't recall anyone saying the hole wouldn't void if found.
And what does AFTER warranty have to do with an argument about DURING warranty.
We can all do whatever the F we want to our trucks AFTER warranty, that's kind of a no-brainer.
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No one is saying just the act of installing one will void the warranty. He's saying that if a part comes loose or something becomes plugged in or because of the catch can, then you'll have a fight on your hands. He's arguing exactly what you stated above.
Problem is, Tuner argues that it won't affect warranty at all and calls him a lier. You all know what automakers are like, if they can prove something was your fault and get out of warranty work, they will certainly try.


I will say that I'm on the fence about installing a catch can. It really comes down to the dealership IMHO. It ends up being their call and how they spin it to FoMoCo when they file. I will flat out call my service manager, that I deal with, and ask him what he thinks about me installing a catch can. I do remember talking to a Ford tech awhile back about catch cans and he told me that they often see them on the Mustangs, so my dealership is aware of them. I cannot obviously speak for everyone, but where I live there are 6 Ford dealerships all within about 40 minute drive (I drive to work a hr each way every weekday anyways), so I could take my truck to any of them and my dealership knows that. The competition is pretty fierce here. The way I see it, either my dealership covers it under warranty (unless I truly cause the failed part) or I'll tow it to a different Ford dealership. Even if that other Ford dealership doesn't cover it under warranty either, I'll get it fixed there at that point instead. This point I just tried to make is all under the assumption that my dealership was just trying to "get out of doing warranty work" and voiding $hit (such as a catch can) to get there. Honestly, I seriously doubt my dealership would do that. It would have to somehow be completely out of their hands for that to happen.
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If the damage is major aka engine failure then the decision is out of their hands its has to be reviewed by a field manager and if the see a hole in ur intake or a catch can or hell even a boost gauge (ask th wrx and evo crowd) they can and have denied a warranty claim. Alot of people havent dealt with turbo charged engines and dealerships, these things can easily increase output by 30-40% and dealerships know that and will so does ford motor comp, so any chance to deny a claim will happen. Just know the facts before you mod thats all.
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It's going to be about you're commitment to clean it. Ford Dealerships install-install-install all the time. The better the system the more it will remove and the more you need to clean it depending on its capture size. This has all been documented and attested to. It causes no harm. You must "Commit" to the maintenance of it. Expect a lot of contaminant during serious periods of weather.
It is your "Commitment" that makes it a serious fix "contender," For the F150 EB's longevity. Lifting the hood when you get home, or when you fill up, that sort of thing. Knowing your oil level in the pan and the level in the CAn ? This is especially for the guy that has the new Catz and all the rest of the TSB's but doesn't want to buy a future of the same and he is coming out of warranty or already there. Then he is a serious contender ! $400 becomes loose change.
Like everything else, if you don't maintain it ???


If you don't like to get your hands dirty forget it ! Just go on your way down the Avenue until it pulls over and stops itself.
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Just show me one example of the RX system EVER voiding a warranty. bigfx, can you please list your qualifications that qualify you to make these statements? What is it you do for a living?

I have been an ebgine builder and automotive engineer for over 40 years (not a "internet expert" like every computer guy or ins salesman that Thinks they are qualified.

I began with GM in 1974, and have been involved in R&D, product design and engineering for the past 40 plus years as well and actually still DO work for the big 3 with design, specifically with the PCV systems on new vehicles and power platforms. The most recent is the PCV orfice design on the GM DI 3.6L V6. EVERY 2014 and up 3.6 DI GM engine has one of MY designs in its PCV system that fixed and issue that plagued them since 2008 with far more engines in use and manufactured than the 3.5 EB has made to date, and that was a minor change yet still took 4YEARS from the time we developed the solution and presented it. $ YEARS for a less than $1 part, and it corrected an issue with oil filling the intake air bridge, throttle bodies, and intake manifolds.

So by all means, educate us n your certifications, qualifications, and personal experience from the engineering and design side of the auto industry.

MY profession IS what qualifies me, and longer working in the industry than most have been alive that are arguing the non-sense here.

So please, by all means share with us how what your posting is anything more than another so called "keyboard expert"'s opinion. Madhochandyman, could you as well since your weighing in with such strong and rude posts?

Then, please tell me why GM dealers have been installing these for years on problem vehicles and some on custom built editions costing over $100,000 each? And now Ford dealers are inquiring and testing these after customers have been coming back to them after 5-10-15 or more service visits for the same problems with no fix yet these people install this system and came back with a write-up on how it does address the flaw and correct the issues? We even now are seeing a good many that the dealer service center s are able to now see first hand the fuel/water/etc. that is caught so they now know WHERE to look for the cause instead of the band-aide tune flashes and CAC covers added in one TSB, then deleted in the next TSB?

Let's have some real intelligent discussion if you like, but to barge into this thread on the attack, being rude and arrogant w/out seeing and learning all of this first hand. If not, please leave this thread and take your hate and drama to one that the OP does not mind such un-productive and disruptive harassment.

And yes, Ford Motor Company is watching all of these threads closely, and are seeing the hundreds here that have implemented this solution with 100% success, where almost NO owners with the TSB's performed have had the issues cured.
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