5.0L Oil Catch Can
04-28-2014, 01:52 PM
#612
I think colder weather will cause more water to be present, but dumping it while you check your oil like you said will take care of that.
^I think you make a valid point, but if you check it and your not forced induction then you shouldn't need a larger can.I change my oil every 5,000 or 6 months which ever comes first so checking the easy smaller can is no problem for me.
I have my SilverHorse Racing catch can setup like the one in the JLT video with the new improved screen filter.Page 58 of this thread. Oil coming in at the smaller hole and out the upper 90 kidney shape chamber shelby style they sent me. Also I don't know if it makes a difference or not, but in the video the oil used is clean oil, lets say 10W30 room temp. When this oil heats up when its in the engine it will become 30 viscosity so I don't know how that effects the test, but this test does prove these small cans filtered catch all the oil until full. So unless you don't want to check it a few times more on a NA engine like the 5.0 that this thread was started about, then a larger can will be one to get for less interval checks and draining. I think thats why most cans are smaller and you can install them on most vehicles a little easier. Not all vehicles are a large V8 or FI. If I had FI or Turbo I would probably go with a larger can for sure, but still not sure about inline check valves because if they get stuck shut the crank case can't vent and I would rather ingest a little oil than have that pressure blow the wrong way. This is just my opinion, not bashing any well designed cans.
^I think you make a valid point, but if you check it and your not forced induction then you shouldn't need a larger can.I change my oil every 5,000 or 6 months which ever comes first so checking the easy smaller can is no problem for me.
I have my SilverHorse Racing catch can setup like the one in the JLT video with the new improved screen filter.Page 58 of this thread. Oil coming in at the smaller hole and out the upper 90 kidney shape chamber shelby style they sent me. Also I don't know if it makes a difference or not, but in the video the oil used is clean oil, lets say 10W30 room temp. When this oil heats up when its in the engine it will become 30 viscosity so I don't know how that effects the test, but this test does prove these small cans filtered catch all the oil until full. So unless you don't want to check it a few times more on a NA engine like the 5.0 that this thread was started about, then a larger can will be one to get for less interval checks and draining. I think thats why most cans are smaller and you can install them on most vehicles a little easier. Not all vehicles are a large V8 or FI. If I had FI or Turbo I would probably go with a larger can for sure, but still not sure about inline check valves because if they get stuck shut the crank case can't vent and I would rather ingest a little oil than have that pressure blow the wrong way. This is just my opinion, not bashing any well designed cans.
Do the test just for peace of mind. Only cost $10-12 for one of the air compressor units. And fluid dynamics will prove no matter what the design on a small can, the flow cannot slow enough to allow suspended droplets to not be pulled through with the flow. Even so, you are cathching some of the gunk and that is far better than no can at all. Checkvalves used have never had a failure yet, but they are not needed with a NA application.
Good observation though on most NA engines with good ring seal will not have a ton of blow-by to begin with, but the size is more with the critical need for the velocity of the vapors traveling through to be able to slow to the point that the Bernoulli effect cannot pull the droplets through with it.
Thats why the UPR extension is an excellent addition to those with the UPR can.
These threads may not always make some happy, but this is one of the most misunderstood systems on engines today and it is so difficult to sort through the hundreds of cans available (no matter what the brand name) to determine what works well, and what does not, as even a beer can w/2 fittings will capture oil. It is not what is caught that proves a cans effectiveness, it is that a can does NOT allow 30-40-50% or more to pass right through it still being ingested, and thats why you can't go by any claims the brand makes, you must test for your self as pointed out here a very easy and inexpensive way to do so. And that includes our designs as well.
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Koolponycar (04-28-2014)
04-28-2014, 02:10 PM
#613
Tuner, can you post up a quick guide on installing the RX can on the 5.0? It does not look as simple and easy as the install for the JLT/UPR cans.
I'll probably get the RX down the road
I'll probably get the RX down the road
Last edited by jgiddy; 04-28-2014 at 02:15 PM.
04-28-2014, 03:34 PM
#614
End of the Earth
Same here. I can't justify spending the money on it right now when my UPR isn't even a year old. If there was as much info about the RX can a year ago as there as has been posted in the last several months on here, I probably would have gone that route. I'd never even heard of the RX can until TunerBoost started talking about it last fall. It's just at the time all I ever saw in regards to catch cans and the 5.0 was UPR or JLT.
Was also browsing UPR's site today and noticed they now offer a diffuser that fits all cans made after June 2013: UPR BILLET CATCH CAN DIFFUSER
Was also browsing UPR's site today and noticed they now offer a diffuser that fits all cans made after June 2013: UPR BILLET CATCH CAN DIFFUSER
04-28-2014, 04:57 PM
#615
Was also browsing UPR's site today and noticed they now offer a diffuser that fits all cans made after June 2013: UPR BILLET CATCH CAN DIFFUSER
Its almost like UPR is reading all this stuff that Tuner Boost is writing and responding to it with improvements to their can. lol
Last edited by jgiddy; 04-28-2014 at 05:14 PM.
04-28-2014, 05:21 PM
#616
Had a 2013 5.0 mustang with an air/oil sep can. Luckily I took it off before I traded it in and bought my MY 13'5.0 f150. Put it on a week after I bought the truck and catches just as much as the stang did! I didn't think I would get as much oil as my mustang because I don't drive my truck near as hard but it's just about the same.
I believe it was a JLT bout $115. Uses ford connectors - fits like factory.
I believe it was a JLT bout $115. Uses ford connectors - fits like factory.
04-28-2014, 09:01 PM
#617
Senior Member
04-29-2014, 01:20 PM
#618
Senior Member
Recently got my *new* revised UPR oil catch can. *A BIG THANK YOU! to USPS for mis-delivering, losing, and mis-routing the parcel so that it took 3 weeks to be delivered. 
Components:
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Brass, chrome-plated line barbs *new*
Lid -revised-
Diffuser *new*
Extension *new*
Bottom -revised-
Parts Schematic
Am currently looking for a mounting bracket to replace the original (though may have to fabricate my own). Thought being that the plastic radiator shroud will not support the *new*, -revised- catch can.Lid -revised-
Diffuser *new*
Bottom -revised-
NOTE: The extension and bottom hold a little more than 12oz.
Drain Valve -personal mod'- (replaces drain plug).
04-29-2014, 01:37 PM
#619
Senior Member
[MENTION=48656]gDMJoe[/MENTION]: Looks good...I was wondering if the fan shroud would hold that up! Holy can! You need a Pringles sticker on the side of that thing! 
04-29-2014, 03:20 PM
#620
Last edited by jgiddy; 04-29-2014 at 03:41 PM.