5.0 UPR vs RX Catch Can Effectiveness Test
#261
Just a quick update on the catch can install on the F150 5.0 and the Ecoboost trucks. I have gone through the installs on both trucks and complete installs and both models mount the can in front without any drilling and still use the bracket supplied with the existing kit.
For anyone who has the UPR catch cans all you need is one 35" inch and one 40" inch hose to mount the can in front between the radiator and the battery on the passenger front side like the vehicle for the ecoboost F150.
This ecoboost kit mounts kits mounts at the top of the radiator support on the left side there is a temp sensor mounted in the hole you're going to use. Remove the temp sensor and install a 1/4 - 20 bolt in the hole then mount and use a lock nut on the bottom. Lastly you can either zip the temp sensor to the mounting bracket or unsnap the harness and stretch the harness as it will reach easily. The mount it in the existing 3 holes on the bottom left side of the radiator.
The same goes for the goes for the 5.0 F150 for the routing and the hose length is one 40" inch and one 45" inch hose. This kits mounts at the bottom of the radiator area on the left side there is a bracket with three holes and you mount the can in the one all the way to the left side.
With both kits you just run the 5/8" inch hoses between the radiator and the battery with the plastic cover slid over. Send one hose through at a time and be sure to feed them along the battery behind all the hoses in that area. Running the valve cover hose straight back and then snake the front hose in and around the hose then left to the front of the intake.
This will make accessing your UPR catch can a breeze and improve the performance as well. The redesigned diffusers will be ready in the next week. The catch can in the front is much and what a difference in how cool is stays. With all the great feedback we have been able to improve this kit and after hearing our kits $199 for the complete setup.
We have come up with a package deal for the complete kit.
UPR Catch Can
UPR Hose Clamps
UPR Nickel Fittings
UPR 1/4" Drain ****
UPR Catch Can Diffuser
UPR Dual Media Package
UPR Catch Can Extension
UPR OEM Hose Connectors
UPR Front Mount 5/8 Hose Kit
UPR Mounting Bracket and Hardware
I will work on getting some pictures tomorrow of the installs. I was very pleased how easy everything installs. These are complete kits. No plastic fittings or poor fitting hoses, this is what you would expect with the Highest Quality Catch Can Packages from UPRproducts.
Stay tuned for pictures of both installs.
For anyone who has the UPR catch cans all you need is one 35" inch and one 40" inch hose to mount the can in front between the radiator and the battery on the passenger front side like the vehicle for the ecoboost F150.
This ecoboost kit mounts kits mounts at the top of the radiator support on the left side there is a temp sensor mounted in the hole you're going to use. Remove the temp sensor and install a 1/4 - 20 bolt in the hole then mount and use a lock nut on the bottom. Lastly you can either zip the temp sensor to the mounting bracket or unsnap the harness and stretch the harness as it will reach easily. The mount it in the existing 3 holes on the bottom left side of the radiator.
The same goes for the goes for the 5.0 F150 for the routing and the hose length is one 40" inch and one 45" inch hose. This kits mounts at the bottom of the radiator area on the left side there is a bracket with three holes and you mount the can in the one all the way to the left side.
With both kits you just run the 5/8" inch hoses between the radiator and the battery with the plastic cover slid over. Send one hose through at a time and be sure to feed them along the battery behind all the hoses in that area. Running the valve cover hose straight back and then snake the front hose in and around the hose then left to the front of the intake.
This will make accessing your UPR catch can a breeze and improve the performance as well. The redesigned diffusers will be ready in the next week. The catch can in the front is much and what a difference in how cool is stays. With all the great feedback we have been able to improve this kit and after hearing our kits $199 for the complete setup.
We have come up with a package deal for the complete kit.
UPR Catch Can
UPR Hose Clamps
UPR Nickel Fittings
UPR 1/4" Drain ****
UPR Catch Can Diffuser
UPR Dual Media Package
UPR Catch Can Extension
UPR OEM Hose Connectors
UPR Front Mount 5/8 Hose Kit
UPR Mounting Bracket and Hardware
I will work on getting some pictures tomorrow of the installs. I was very pleased how easy everything installs. These are complete kits. No plastic fittings or poor fitting hoses, this is what you would expect with the Highest Quality Catch Can Packages from UPRproducts.
Stay tuned for pictures of both installs.
#262
Senior Member
Just a quick update on the catch can install on the F150 5.0 and the Ecoboost trucks. I have gone through the installs on both trucks and complete installs and both models mount the can in front without any drilling and still use the bracket supplied with the existing kit.
For anyone who has the UPR catch cans all you need is one 35" inch and one 40" inch hose to mount the can in front between the radiator and the battery on the passenger front side like the vehicle for the ecoboost F150.
This ecoboost kit mounts kits mounts at the top of the radiator support on the left side there is a temp sensor mounted in the hole you're going to use. Remove the temp sensor and install a 1/4 - 20 bolt in the hole then mount and use a lock nut on the bottom. Lastly you can either zip the temp sensor to the mounting bracket or unsnap the harness and stretch the harness as it will reach easily. The mount it in the existing 3 holes on the bottom left side of the radiator.
The same goes for the goes for the 5.0 F150 for the routing and the hose length is one 40" inch and one 45" inch hose. This kits mounts at the bottom of the radiator area on the left side there is a bracket with three holes and you mount the can in the one all the way to the left side.
With both kits you just run the 5/8" inch hoses between the radiator and the battery with the plastic cover slid over. Send one hose through at a time and be sure to feed them along the battery behind all the hoses in that area. Running the valve cover hose straight back and then snake the front hose in and around the hose then left to the front of the intake.
This will make accessing your UPR catch can a breeze and improve the performance as well. The redesigned diffusers will be ready in the next week. The catch can in the front is much and what a difference in how cool is stays. With all the great feedback we have been able to improve this kit and after hearing our kits $199 for the complete setup.
We have come up with a package deal for the complete kit.
UPR Catch Can
UPR Hose Clamps
UPR Nickel Fittings
UPR 1/4" Drain ****
UPR Catch Can Diffuser
UPR Dual Media Package
UPR Catch Can Extension
UPR OEM Hose Connectors
UPR Front Mount 5/8 Hose Kit
UPR Mounting Bracket and Hardware
I will work on getting some pictures tomorrow of the installs. I was very pleased how easy everything installs. These are complete kits. No plastic fittings or poor fitting hoses, this is what you would expect with the Highest Quality Catch Can Packages from UPRproducts.
Stay tuned for pictures of both installs.
For anyone who has the UPR catch cans all you need is one 35" inch and one 40" inch hose to mount the can in front between the radiator and the battery on the passenger front side like the vehicle for the ecoboost F150.
This ecoboost kit mounts kits mounts at the top of the radiator support on the left side there is a temp sensor mounted in the hole you're going to use. Remove the temp sensor and install a 1/4 - 20 bolt in the hole then mount and use a lock nut on the bottom. Lastly you can either zip the temp sensor to the mounting bracket or unsnap the harness and stretch the harness as it will reach easily. The mount it in the existing 3 holes on the bottom left side of the radiator.
The same goes for the goes for the 5.0 F150 for the routing and the hose length is one 40" inch and one 45" inch hose. This kits mounts at the bottom of the radiator area on the left side there is a bracket with three holes and you mount the can in the one all the way to the left side.
With both kits you just run the 5/8" inch hoses between the radiator and the battery with the plastic cover slid over. Send one hose through at a time and be sure to feed them along the battery behind all the hoses in that area. Running the valve cover hose straight back and then snake the front hose in and around the hose then left to the front of the intake.
This will make accessing your UPR catch can a breeze and improve the performance as well. The redesigned diffusers will be ready in the next week. The catch can in the front is much and what a difference in how cool is stays. With all the great feedback we have been able to improve this kit and after hearing our kits $199 for the complete setup.
We have come up with a package deal for the complete kit.
UPR Catch Can
UPR Hose Clamps
UPR Nickel Fittings
UPR 1/4" Drain ****
UPR Catch Can Diffuser
UPR Dual Media Package
UPR Catch Can Extension
UPR OEM Hose Connectors
UPR Front Mount 5/8 Hose Kit
UPR Mounting Bracket and Hardware
I will work on getting some pictures tomorrow of the installs. I was very pleased how easy everything installs. These are complete kits. No plastic fittings or poor fitting hoses, this is what you would expect with the Highest Quality Catch Can Packages from UPRproducts.
Stay tuned for pictures of both installs.
Do you plan to address the lack of IM vacuum issue on the Ecoboosts when under boost?
#264
Senior Member
Well, my take on it is you need vacuum at all times to properly evacuate the crankcase. I have only seen a couple of aftermarket evacuation systems that address this, UPR not being one of those. Most systems rely on IM vacuum only to evacuate the crankcase. In boosted applications, while I suppose it could be debatable, IM vacuum is not sufficient to properly evacuate the crankcase. Therefore, some secondary source of vacuum is needed to provide continuous crankcase evacuation. This vacuum needs to come from another source on the vehicle that would provide vacuum under boost. The two systems that I have found that do this tap into the turbo inlet pipes to provide this vacuum. I suppose another source could be a remote vacuum pump, although this would seem to be a more costly option, but would not require drilling into the turbo inlet pipes. I was just curious if you had plans to address this issue for the Ecoboost applications. To me, it's not an issue for the NA applications. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
#265
Yes I will be addressing it. We do this for all the supercharged mustangs. I am not too happy about drilling holes in the factory piping. We are trying to come up with a connector that can just be installed without destroying the factory tubes.
#266
Senior Member
Yea, I'm not thrilled about that either, but currently seems to be the best option. I thought about just trying the existing barb on the driver's side, but not sure that will provide enough vacuum.
#267
Senior Member
Good idea, use the existing barb and tubing for easier integration, then a filtered atmosphere vent for the fresh air side. It would provide roughly half the flow of tapping both turbo inlets, but might still be better than the current setup.
#268
We took pictures today and I'll be posting them tomorrow of both the 5.0 and Ecoboost setups. They came out awesome and are so easy to install for anyone. The next step is to work on a secondary vacuum source. The current installs are using the air intake / filter box.
We are looking to make a kit to either T off the existing system or create an add on setup that will mount in a UPR supplied silicone hose that holds the pipes together and you can simply remove your factory silicone connector and save it for when you go back to stock.
What's everyone think about making a kit that doesn't wreck the factory components or tubes ?
As for only using the vacuum from one side it'll be perfect since the additional vacuum only forces the engine to create un-needed oil travel. You just want keep continuous vacuum and simulate repeatable source.
We are looking to make a kit to either T off the existing system or create an add on setup that will mount in a UPR supplied silicone hose that holds the pipes together and you can simply remove your factory silicone connector and save it for when you go back to stock.
What's everyone think about making a kit that doesn't wreck the factory components or tubes ?
As for only using the vacuum from one side it'll be perfect since the additional vacuum only forces the engine to create un-needed oil travel. You just want keep continuous vacuum and simulate repeatable source.
#269
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Thanks Joe. Looking forward to the pictures.
Have you tested the can out front yet? I'm curious if it catches more of the other contaminants if it is running cooler. During my test with the UPR first in line, it caught what appeared to be oil and only oil. The RX can, after the UPR, caught what appeared to be a mix of other fluids and gunk, . When the RX was first, it caught the oil, plus all the other liquids. So like I said, I'm wondering if the cooler running UPR can will help it catch the type of fluids it was missing before.
Have you tested the can out front yet? I'm curious if it catches more of the other contaminants if it is running cooler. During my test with the UPR first in line, it caught what appeared to be oil and only oil. The RX can, after the UPR, caught what appeared to be a mix of other fluids and gunk, . When the RX was first, it caught the oil, plus all the other liquids. So like I said, I'm wondering if the cooler running UPR can will help it catch the type of fluids it was missing before.
#270
On the ecoboost truck with the new front mount location and a modified diffuser it caught the same mix of oil and other fluids and had a tan color on the top watery fluid and the oil was lining the bottom.
This was in just 60 miles after the install and the results were exceptional to say the least. The owner of the ecoboost was the Ford Mechanic at Wayne Akers Ford. He could not believe the difference either and was very pleased as well.
This was in just 60 miles after the install and the results were exceptional to say the least. The owner of the ecoboost was the Ford Mechanic at Wayne Akers Ford. He could not believe the difference either and was very pleased as well.