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Old 01-01-2013, 10:50 PM
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Personally I'd like to see a 4.0L turbo common rail diesel producing 300hp 500tq that's gets around 25-30 MPG.
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We will see how we'll the Titan does in 2014 when they introduce the first half ton diesel with a partnership with Cummins. If that one does well, you will see other manufacturers join in. Ford already has Lion psd in the Euro market, two small v8's, and a v6. However, the majority of half to truck buyers likely do not want to deal with the extras that come with a modern diesel, 4 gallon oil changes, def fluid, the smell and noise, not to mention the cost. The reality is, Ecoboost is the diesel alternative.
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Have not confirmed this but I heard Toyota was not going to go through with adding a diesel to their lineup. Something to do with the upcoming EPA requirements on diesels. Like I said I don't have hard evidence just hearsay.
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Anyone else wondering if the 6.2 gets dohc soon?
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I've followed Nissan with their 4cyl turbo cummins. I thought it was around 250/425 on power. With a tune that could be 275whp and 500wtq. It wouldn't beat a modded Ecoboost but with the right trans and gearing it would feel pretty sporty. Too bad it would sound like a UPS truck.
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Originally Posted by 11eco
Anyone else wondering if the 6.2 gets dohc soon?
I doubt it will.

With the CAFE regulations soon being applied to heavy duty trucks I honestly can't see Ford plowing a bunch of money into this engine when it would be cheaper and easier to spend it on a modern engine like the 5.0. I would bet the 5.0 gets the turbo/direct injection treatment and makes more torque and horsepower than the 6.2 DOHC ever would and gets better mileage while doing it.

By the way, a V8 turbo won't sound nearly as good as everyone here seems to think it will. Turbos muffle the exhaust so you won't here anything more than a low rumble. Sorry to disappoint but if you need examples see the new BMW M5.
Old 01-02-2013, 12:09 AM
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I don't think Ford would waste their time on a 4cyl diesel as it wouldn't have anything to offer over the eco and would be a more expensive option.
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Originally Posted by MadocHandyman
Didn't they build the 5.0 with DI and FI in mind? It would make more sense for a turbocharged, DI 5.0 to take over the 6.2 in the premium packages and SD.
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I have also read that the 5.0 was designed for DI and FI. I believe that Ford did this as a "just in case" strategy. The 5.0 may not be intended to be a production turbo charged engine but it could be in the future (maybe intended more so for the Mustang crowd). At the very least Ford has done the people in the aftermarket a HUGE favor by making it that much easier to slap a supercharger on the 5.0.

I very much doubt that Ford would spend millions of dollars on the development of new engines so soon after their current family of engines were released. Not to say that there isn't always R&D going on behind the scenes, that's just how you come up with new technologies and stay ahead of the competition. However you also want to make sure that you get a good return on your investment with your current production engines before you start testing and tooling for all new designs. The new engines are selling so well and performing so great that I think Ford will milk them for all they're worth.

There have been rumors of a "baby powerstroke" in the F150's since before the 2009 redesign, personally I don't think its ever going to happen. The cost involved of developing and manufacturing a new diesel as well as the emissions regulations probably outweigh the possible benefits to half ton buyers IMO.

I believe the 6.2 will be around for a while yet in the F150. Now that Ford is offering them in more trims it shows that they believe they have the potential of gaining a bigger piece of the market. They probably weren't sure how buyers would react to an older style, big block, SOHC engine in a half ton so they only offered them in a few trims to test the waters. Now that they are more confident in sales they are offering the engine more freely. If they wanted to phase out the 6.2 in the F150 (because they weren't selling) they would decrease their offerings, maybe only offering them in the Raptor and the SD. But the fact that you can now get a 6.2 in an XLT shows Ford see's this engine as a good potential money maker.
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I just don't think there is a market for a half ton diesel. The cost (5-6k?) would push the price up to SD territory then anyway.

Not to mention near a $1 more a gallon for diesel. Means you have to drive a lot, and tow a bunch, just to break even. You can go a bunch of miles towing with a 5.0 or eco at 10 mpgs, to make up the initial cost difference of a diesel engine.
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Like I said, diesel 1/2 ton will sell to those that keep their trucks for 10+ years or those that just love diesels. If the diesel got 20mpg average vs 17mpg average the cost per tank would be a wash. If it got anything better than 20 then the diesel would then start paying for the initial cost for the diesel option. At 22 mpg you'd be saving $10 per tank over the gas engine. Fill up once per week it will take nearly 10 years to pay for the diesel if its a $5k option. All just rough estimates of course.


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