2013 may be a forcast for the future F150 engine line
01-01-2013, 01:02 PM
#11
27 mpg isn't great when diesel fuel is quite a bit more expensive than all octane levels of gas. People that will own a truck for 10 years might buy a diesel or those that like the novelty of saying they own a diesel. The EB is filling the 1/2 ton diesel spot nicely. It will be a foreign manufacturer to bring diesel to half tons. There are plenty of 5.9 diesel swaps getting high 20s mpg and that's with an ancient 4spd auto. 30 mpg highway is easily possible with 8spd auto diesel cruising at 1500 rpm at 70
01-01-2013, 01:07 PM
#12
2018 F150 Platinum FX4
Why would they change engines so soon? Heck the last batch lasted 14 years with minor changes through 3 different generations. I see these engines staying close to the same spare some new gov't regulations (wouldn't surprise me). The 6.2 is sold in quite a few SDs and in an increasing number of F150s since the broader trim availability in 13. The 3.7 is the base in the Mustang as well as the F150 and a very large amount of those are sold as well as it is a very strong engine despite it's size. To spend a large sum of R&D money on 4 engines then up and replace/add to the lineup would be a poor use of that money. Ford knows what it's doing.
01-01-2013, 01:13 PM
#13
Five-0 Ret.
It wouldn't suprise me, with the new EPA reg. bearing down, to see them do away with the 3.7L for the 2.0 EB that's used in their cars. With the downsizing of the truck the 2.0L EB may be the standard. I've owned a 3.7L in a SCREW, and the mpg's just aren't that must better than the 5.0. As this is more understood by the consumer I think these 3.7's will be mostly sold in company work trucks, etc. possibily making them cost prohibitive. IMHO.
01-01-2013, 01:13 PM
#14
Meaner than ymeski56
I believe a small displacement diesel along with the lighter F150 and possibly an 8 speed auto could achieve 30 MPG if a much heavier SD that can produce 400 HP/800 TQ and 6 speed auto can get 20 MPG. The problem is the diesel engine itself and putting it in a half ton that normally has a lighter gas engine.
01-01-2013, 01:45 PM
#15
rumor is the 3.9 NA is going away with a smaller eco to replace it. The baby powerstroke would be worthwhile for those that tow a lot IF it got better fuel economy while towing. 9-11 mpg while towing with the ecoboost gets expensive really quick. Tow enough and you can pay for the added cost of the diesel engine and fuel
01-01-2013, 02:07 PM
#16
Senior Member
Both the EB and the 5.0 exceed the 5.4 in HP and TQ and would be far better in the Expy than the 5.4. Having driven the 5.4 in an Expy platform, its a dog and needs to go. In these times of streamlining things and cutting costs and trimming back I have no idea why they are still making the 5.4's.
01-01-2013, 02:14 PM
#17
One Bad MoFoMoCo Owner
Both the EB and the 5.0 exceed the 5.4 in HP and TQ and would be far better in the Expy than the 5.4. Having driven the 5.4 in an Expy platform, its a dog and needs to go. In these times of streamlining things and cutting costs and trimming back I have no idea why they are still making the 5.4's.
Have been wondering the same thing. The wife wants a new kid hauler, but I wouldn't buy the Expedition with the 5.4, because it's a dog. Was hoping the 5.0 would be replacing it for 2013, but nope. So I guess she'll be cruising the Rodeo a little longer.
01-01-2013, 02:39 PM
#18
Senior Member
If I had room in my driveway for a nice utility trailer at my house I would probably be in an Expy now. But I still use my truck frequently enough to justify it, although an Expy with a reliable version of the EB would be very tempting.
01-01-2013, 06:43 PM
#19
Meaner than ymeski56
Wouldn't call the 5.4 such a dog. The Expy is heavier than an F150. This means that both the EB, 5.0 and 5.4 would/do work harder in the Expy than the F150. The low end torque of the 5.4 and EB help but it's still heavy. The 5.0 would sound pretty sweet in an Expy haha. I see them either cutting the Expy (probably not) or redesigning when they redesign the F150 so they can use the same weight cutting. Not sure how much is shared between the F150 but I'm sure it's probably frame, axles, etc.
