Mike Up

Well I was looking at the new 2013 Ford models and noticed one thing, new for this year, for most models, is one standard engine and 2 Ecoboost engines changing from last year.

I can see in the future Ford offering 3.7 and 5.0L standard motors and offering a 3.5L Ecoboost and replacing the 6.2L with a 4.0L Ecoboost. I doubt there will be a 5.0L Ecoboost unless it goes into the Mustang replacing the Supercharged engine.

The reason I see them keeping the 3.7 and 5.0L is because of their better fuel mileage where the 4.0 Ecoboost will likely match the 5.0L fuel economy or be just slightly worse. I don't see the 6.2L carrying on except maybe in the Super Duty line. Funny the Expedition for 2013 is still using the same 5.4L that the 2009 and 2010 F150s did. Guess it needs the extra low end torque for the heavier body.

TurboSalsa

I doubt they would go through the trouble of making another EB engine so close in displacement to the existing one, especially when the existing one is plenty capable in a half-ton.

I would be willing to bet that you will see the 3.7 replaced with an inline four or five cylinder turbo.

XtraLargeTall

Why would they change engines so soon? Heck the last batch lasted 14 years with minor changes through 3 different generations. I see these engines staying close to the same spare some new gov't regulations (wouldn't surprise me). The 6.2 is sold in quite a few SDs and in an increasing number of F150s since the broader trim availability in 13. The 3.7 is the base in the Mustang as well as the F150 and a very large amount of those are sold as well as it is a very strong engine despite it's size. To spend a large sum of R&D money on 4 engines then up and replace/add to the lineup would be a poor use of that money. Ford knows what it's doing.

CoreyMS

I'd be willing to bet the 6.2 isn't going to be around for the long term. EPA is going to make sad faces. I believe this bc now all the sudden you can get it in lower trims, makes me think they are trying to use them up...or maybe they I'm wrong and they saw a market they were losing.

MadocHandyman

Didn't they build the 5.0 with DI and FI in mind? It would make more sense for a turbocharged, DI 5.0 to take over the 6.2 in the premium packages and SD.
3.7, 3.5 TT, 5.0 TT.

Joewee3.5

Chevy is direct injecting their engines in the new truck line. Nissan will probably offer their DI 5.6 400/400 in their new truck. I'm sure a DI 5.0 would see 400hp/425 tq and be a very nice engine to replace the 6.2. There'd be 3.7, 5.0, 3.5tt, DI 5.0. That's my guess anyway. Imagine the DI 5.0 vs EB threads lol

engineermike

I believe the 6.2 will be around for a while. It's an all new engine, developed because the small bore-spacing of the modular v8 limited them to 5.4 liters, while other trucks were being offered with 5.6-6.2 liter engines. I don't believe they would go through the expense of developing a new engine if they didn't intend to make it for a long time.

Also, I wouldn't read too far into the Expedition engines, as its not abnormal for SUV's to be a couple of years behind the trucks.

I don't think they're going to change the engines much for a while, but when they do I'm thinking tweaks to the EB to add 20-40 hp, and DI on the 3.7 and 5.0.

bcb97

I've read a couple of articles on new ford engines in the making. Rumor of a baby power stroke and a new family line of ecoboost engines.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2012/12...ord-f-150.html

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...5-f-150-pickup

engineermike

I'd bet lunch that we never see a half-ton diesel. The federal government has ruined that for us, not to mention that the Ecoboost has filled that slot for much less money. Just for grins, check the EPA fuel economy rating of the last half-ton diesel made (that I know of). . . 16/22 - identical to the EB.

Also, consider that the one quote in the article only has it at 200 hp/400 ft-lb. Dodge's small diesel, rumored for their half-ton also, is purported to make 250/450. Note that these power numbers are down 50-100 hp from the base v6 from both companies. If they were to hit showrooms, I don't think they would find many buyers willing to pay an extra $5-10k for an engine with less power than the base v6 and the same economy, especially with the fuel efficient and torquey EB sitting next to it. The bean-counters at the OEM's will realize this well before they pour a bunch of money into development.

bcb97

You're probably right but I think the bigger factor will be MPG numbers rather than HP/TQ. If the baby power stroke gets 27 mpg (long shot I know, but just talking) then people might buy into it.

Also if they put a baby power stroke in all packages rather than the top packages then it might sell as well.