2011 ecoboost noise on start up
08-26-2015, 02:51 PM
#1503
The TSB says:
I predict a shortage/backorder of parts for repairs. That's usually what happens when Ford finally figures out how to fix a major problem that has effected lots of vehicles.
"Does the customer state a ticking/tapping or rattle type noise occurs from the top front cover area of the engine upon initial cold start-up that lasts for 2-5 seconds after a cold soak of 6 or more hours?
I've never seen another TSB worded like this... It does not require the dealer to verify the condition.a. Yes - proceed to (repairs)
.I predict a shortage/backorder of parts for repairs. That's usually what happens when Ford finally figures out how to fix a major problem that has effected lots of vehicles.
08-26-2015, 03:53 PM
#1504
The TSB says:
I predict a shortage/backorder of parts for repairs. That's usually what happens when Ford finally figures out how to fix a major problem that has effected lots of vehicles.
"Does the customer state a ticking/tapping or rattle type noise occurs from the top front cover area of the engine upon initial cold start-up that lasts for 2-5 seconds after a cold soak of 6 or more hours?
I've never seen another TSB worded like this... It does not require the dealer to verify the condition.a. Yes - proceed to (repairs)
.I predict a shortage/backorder of parts for repairs. That's usually what happens when Ford finally figures out how to fix a major problem that has effected lots of vehicles.
Next time I hear it (probably tomorrow AM), it is going back to them and they can keep it until the hear it.
08-26-2015, 03:59 PM
#1505
Junior Member
08-26-2015, 04:01 PM
#1506
That won't work unless they have the code. Has anyone taken apart the timing chain to see if it is made with seals around the pins like motorcycle chains are or does it rely on the polish done to them during manufacture only ? If so the seal would keep out the gasoline and debris that would harm the chain over time and put it entirely on the lubricant allowing timing gear wear and chain noise while the gasoline dilution would point to even further excelerated wear of the teeth on the gears in the timing influenza.
08-26-2015, 08:59 PM
#1507
Ford Customer Service
Took my 2013 in for it yesterday (well, dropped off evening before) and this noise was one of the issues. Of course, they couldn't replicate the noise... They also listed a bulletin that says HPFP noise is normal on cold start. My noise is definitely the chain noise there has been videos posted of. Guess I will wait until it gets worse and hopefully a CEL comes on. I have 43k on it now but have the ESP warranty until 75k, so should be covered for a while.
My CEL never came on and my timing was over 6 degrees off. With the new TSB you don't have to have a CEL for them to fix it. I'd take it in and get it taken care of. I just got mine back yesterday and it runs way better now. My mileage went up by 3-4 mpg on my 10-12 mile drive to work this morning. I do the same drive every morning and its always between 12-13 mpg but today i got 16 mpg. I wrote last night that it sounded like my truck made the noise again but what I heard was very faint and could have been the hpfp. It didn't make the noise again this morning so I'm going to let it play out since I still have almost 40k miles on the Ford ESP. Plus I wouldn't mind another free oil change in the future if it comes back.
Please consider scheduling an appointment with your dealership for this concern if you haven't already done so. Please shoot me a PM with your VIN; I'll see what I can do to help out.
Chad
08-27-2015, 01:21 AM
#1508
Senior Member
Well I called tuesday looking for prices and whether or not Ford would help out since the timing chain was just replaced 5.5 months ago and noise didn't go away. No call back yet haha. Dealers want to deal with this about as much as a guy wants to go get a vasectomy. And I'm not even in warranty so they have been earning real money haha
08-27-2015, 09:35 AM
#1509
I have a 2013 Ecoboost and experienced the 2-3 second rattle on cold start after truck sat all night.
I took it to the dealer and the say it is bad cam phasers and are going to replace.
24,000 miles - disappointing.
I did notice that my MPG went from 13 city to 10 MPG so I think there is a performance hit when you have this issue.
Not a fan of the Ecoboost. Never get better than 15 MPG even on highway. 13 MPG city. Like the power, but the MPG and reliability are real concerns. Marketing hype - you can't get these MPG numbers unless you drive 55-60 MPH on the highway. The Ecoboost is just a ploy to comply with government EPA numbers while fooling truck buyers that these MPG numbers are attainable.
The reality is the highway speeds here in Texas 70-80 MPH so you are always using the boost and sucking gas. In the city, more of the same. Always in boost.
I can deal with the gas economy disappointment but I can't deal with the lack of reliability.
I took it to the dealer and the say it is bad cam phasers and are going to replace.
24,000 miles - disappointing.
I did notice that my MPG went from 13 city to 10 MPG so I think there is a performance hit when you have this issue.
Not a fan of the Ecoboost. Never get better than 15 MPG even on highway. 13 MPG city. Like the power, but the MPG and reliability are real concerns. Marketing hype - you can't get these MPG numbers unless you drive 55-60 MPH on the highway. The Ecoboost is just a ploy to comply with government EPA numbers while fooling truck buyers that these MPG numbers are attainable.
The reality is the highway speeds here in Texas 70-80 MPH so you are always using the boost and sucking gas. In the city, more of the same. Always in boost.
I can deal with the gas economy disappointment but I can't deal with the lack of reliability.
Last edited by austinlonestar; 08-27-2015 at 09:37 AM. Reason: spelling errors
08-28-2015, 07:17 AM
#1510
I have watched quite a few of the videos of this problem, and the noise seems to last a good 3-4 seconds. Has the noise always lasted this long? Or did it first start-out as a shorter duration noise? I have the 3.7 and just started noticing a very similar noise at cold starts (needs to sit at least 12 hours), but a shorter duration. Mine may last a second or two. It's more of a loud "CLACK" at start-up. I have 26K miles and will be taking it in for diagnosis.