winchested

Not necessarily true that when the noise starts all hell breaks loose. My truck in some shape or form started last fall and made the noise August/ Sept of 2014. Was running Castrol Edge Full Synthetic and Frams highest quality filter the Ultra Synthetic. Ran that filter to roughly 5500 km on the oil then swapped the filter for an OEM Ford unit, the noise still continued every once and a while. At 7500-8K km I did the oil change, switched to Penzoil Platnium Full synthetic and a New Ford OEM filter (even though the old one only had a couple thousand km on it.) Noise dissipated completely until just recently after the oil has 7000km on it and this is only after sitting an extended period of time. I even went so far as taking the newest TSB to my dealer and having them run the PCM against the listed PIDS in the TSB. My timing is well below the threshold limit in the TSB therefore no timing stretch.

I myself believe it is an oil prime issue dealing with the anti-drain back valves in the filters and the overall viscosity of the oil and it's ability to hold prime in the top end of the engine.

I myself now believe the start-up noise is not all related to the stretching of the timing chain, but the stretching of the timing chain may be related to the lack of upper end lubrication on start-up.

BTW: 2011 Ecoboost in mine. With 63,500 KM on the clock.

This is why I will now and forever change my oil between 7500-8000KM (5000 mile) with a Top Tier Full synthetic oil and OEM ford FL-500S filters.

And I don't think fords semi synthetic cuts the mustard on this one either.

Pork Chop22

Got the bad news today.............last time the timing was out 4 degrees. It is now out 5 degrees and the dealer says they will not touch it. They will not stand up to Ford even though they know there is a problem. They have heard it. I give up................

FORD HAS FAILED!

LastResort

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...intcid=mod-yml

Good article, for a number of reasons. It's pretty clear that Ford is still running from the same playbook: it's not killing people, it's not a marketing liability, and it's going to be god-awful expensive to fix. Just like the exploding rear windows, were ****ed. Only the failing vacuum pumps seem to get any attention at all, likely because it's such a high risk and doing something is better than nothing.

F150SGFX4

If there has been anyone killed in an Ecoboost F150, too bad that they're not around to tell people it was probably due to loss of throttle response and the engine not preforming the way it should. Guess these people will have to take their testimonial to the grave. I ****ing hate how a multinational is endangering the general public with their defective product. Where are our legislators and consumer protection agencies to help us put pressure on Ford to fix these trucks right?

huntnrig

CAMVAP is the only option available to Canadians. And as long as Ford keeps saying they are "working" on a fix it would seem they are protected by the CAMVAP process (read the fine print). Ford Corporate is a bunch of weasels. My local dealer put more effort into fixing blemished paint and diagnosing my problem stereo then my timing chain. Here's a good one! The truck I posted in this thread over and over and over again is now for sale again at the same dealer I bought it from...

huntnrig

Sounds like your dealer had about as much ***** as my local dealer... They caved like a cheap suit once Ford Engineering said no. This blows my mind how Ford is ignoring this issue.

Shining a light on this is the only avenue we have.

LastResort

I'm not convinced it's a safety problem, but it's certainly a quality issue in my mind.

maplelakeduckslayer

Cmon guys. I had the timing chain go bad it was never life and death because of it.

Do some searching and look at how common of a problem timing chains are with other manufacturers. GM, Nissan, Audi...everyone is having issues. You can thank the government

Pork Chop22

Hello Everybody;

As you all are probably aware I have a 2011 Screw Eco with the timing chain issue. I have 22,000 kilometers left on my drivetrain warranty.

My question is do you think my engine is a ticking time bomb which could result in major damage and cost or is it possible that the engine will just be fine with the only issue being the grinding sound on start-up for several years to come?

I know it is a tough question to answer but I am trying to decide what to do.

Thank-you for any replies that are given.

maplelakeduckslayer

I think the underlying issue is oil pressure. Chains are stretching, but those who report the noise coming back shortly after replacement obviously aren't stretching chains in 5,000 miles. Oil pressure is being lost somewhere. I heard mine rattle the other day again 6000 miles after getting it replaced. Seems to be running fine. I am going to talk to the dealer about it, but I'm not throwing any more of my money at it. I switched to full synthetic and will be doing 3-4k mile changes, and will continue driving it with no fear of a slight rattle every once in a while. I'm at 111k miles.

If your timing isn't off, I wouldn't worry too much about it