real life fuel econ?
#11
Senior Member
11.5 city all day long....The highway is completely speed dependent....anywhere from 14-17 depending on speed. not sure why the 2012-2013 are rated better than the 2011 for fuel mileage, but mine said 14mpg highway on the sticker
#12
0.9% is for suckers!
a tank avg for me tended to be 11-13. The best I got was 15 mpg on a long trip.
You can drive 60 mph for the best mileage, but thats 15mph under the limit here in Texas.
You can drive 60 mph for the best mileage, but thats 15mph under the limit here in Texas.
#13
Senior Member
I've only run through one tank which had ALOT of idle time with the dealer doing that MyFord Touch review ****.. (30+ minutes) and showing off the features to friends.. that tank was 13.2 mpg.
I'm on the second tank now and the dash is reading right around 13.5 mpg.. on the hwy I'm seeing right around 15mpg @ 70mph, but when I do my short 1-2 mile trip for lunch or let her warmup in the morning waiting for my son's school bus it really kills the mpgs.
I'm on the second tank now and the dash is reading right around 13.5 mpg.. on the hwy I'm seeing right around 15mpg @ 70mph, but when I do my short 1-2 mile trip for lunch or let her warmup in the morning waiting for my son's school bus it really kills the mpgs.
#14
Heat Miser
My Ecoboost(4wd) has 315/70/17s, and while I never understood why people would want a truck that gets such horrible mileage as the Raptor, I HAVEN'T even seen where mine bottoms out. I keep re-setting the fricken gauge when it gets into the low 10s because I'm pulling my(last) hair(s) out by then. I have 3.73s, and the thing certainly isn't lacking for acceleration or power, but for whatever reason the E-boost motor starts gas-bonging when you put bigger tires on it.
I personally need a bigger bed than the Raptor comes with, so it still wouldn't work for me, but it's truly AMAZING what happens when you get vehicles out into the real world.
I would KILL for a 13mpg average. KILL for it....
I personally need a bigger bed than the Raptor comes with, so it still wouldn't work for me, but it's truly AMAZING what happens when you get vehicles out into the real world.
I would KILL for a 13mpg average. KILL for it....
#15
In Dale we trust.
Well if you put those big of tires on any truck, you'll get worse gas mileage. That's a common sense given. As for the remark "I never understood why people would want a truck that gets such horrible mileage as the Raptor", are you serious? Who the **** buys a truck for gas mileage? You buy a Raptor for the offroad ability and all around badassery.
#16
0.9% is for suckers!
My Ecoboost(4wd) has 315/70/17s, and while I never understood why people would want a truck that gets such horrible mileage as the Raptor, I HAVEN'T even seen where mine bottoms out. I keep re-setting the fricken gauge when it gets into the low 10s because I'm pulling my(last) hair(s) out by then. I have 3.73s, and the thing certainly isn't lacking for acceleration or power, but for whatever reason the E-boost motor starts gas-bonging when you put bigger tires on it.
I personally need a bigger bed than the Raptor comes with, so it still wouldn't work for me, but it's truly AMAZING what happens when you get vehicles out into the real world.
I would KILL for a 13mpg average. KILL for it....
I personally need a bigger bed than the Raptor comes with, so it still wouldn't work for me, but it's truly AMAZING what happens when you get vehicles out into the real world.
I would KILL for a 13mpg average. KILL for it....
I stayed easy on it and kept it 60-70 ( almost never 70) and saw those numbers. My fill up said I had 610 miles to empty.
#17
Heat Miser
Well if you put those big of tires on any truck, you'll get worse gas mileage. That's a common sense given. As for the remark "I never understood why people would want a truck that gets such horrible mileage as the Raptor", are you serious? Who the **** buys a truck for gas mileage? You buy a Raptor for the offroad ability and all around badassery.
The Raptor does better, and my truck does worse.
But I would like you to tell me how much worse the mileage on the Raptor is from running 'those big of tires'...?
As I STATED in my post, I'd KILL for the Raptor's mileage.
Other trucks that don't get horrible mileage are diesels. I've owned 6 of them since 2001, and every one of 'em gets/got 16/20+ running 35/18's.
Hell the GM 8.1L got better mileage than my Ecoboost running the same tires.
Same with the Ford and Dodge V-10 and the GM 6.0L
Since my point was NOT that trucks get 'worse' mileage from adding 'those big of tires', but questioning how much 'worse' mileage a truck SHOULD get from adding 'those big of tires', your post is MOOT.
Have a nice day anyway..
Last edited by yokev; 02-03-2013 at 01:37 AM.
#18
Senior Member
The Eco benefits greatly from gearing. The Eco 'Raptor' gets 1-2 mpg better than a Raptor and its on 37's - because its also running 4.88:1 diffs.
The Eco only gets good mileage when not in boost, under load its operating as a 7liter (effective displacement {3.5l @ ~15psi max = 7l}). To keep the Eco out of boost with the larger tires, increased front profile, extra weight, etc.. you have to increase its mechanical advantage (towing, hills, hard acceleration).
Obviously there is a point of diminishing returns, at some point you can have too low a ratio and you'll be decreasing mileage because RPMs will be too high.
If it were me, I'd figure out which Eco variant (gearing wise with whatever truck configuration you have) gets the best mpg, then I would do the math to figure out what ratio I would need to achieve an equivalent final ratio given the larger tires - I bet you get your most if not all your MPGs back.
Ex: factory ECO SCREW 4x4 3.73:1 on 265's gets XXmpg
Lifted ECO SCREW 4x4 x.xx:1 on 35's needs (4.56 / 4.88 / whatever) to have the final ratio equivalent as the final ratio for the 3.73:1 on 265's.
The Eco only gets good mileage when not in boost, under load its operating as a 7liter (effective displacement {3.5l @ ~15psi max = 7l}). To keep the Eco out of boost with the larger tires, increased front profile, extra weight, etc.. you have to increase its mechanical advantage (towing, hills, hard acceleration).
Obviously there is a point of diminishing returns, at some point you can have too low a ratio and you'll be decreasing mileage because RPMs will be too high.
If it were me, I'd figure out which Eco variant (gearing wise with whatever truck configuration you have) gets the best mpg, then I would do the math to figure out what ratio I would need to achieve an equivalent final ratio given the larger tires - I bet you get your most if not all your MPGs back.
Ex: factory ECO SCREW 4x4 3.73:1 on 265's gets XXmpg
Lifted ECO SCREW 4x4 x.xx:1 on 35's needs (4.56 / 4.88 / whatever) to have the final ratio equivalent as the final ratio for the 3.73:1 on 265's.
Last edited by WarSurfer; 02-03-2013 at 02:10 PM.
#19
Heat Miser
The Eco benefits greatly from gearing. The Eco 'Raptor' gets 1-2 mpg better than a Raptor and its on 37's - because its also running 4.88:1 diffs.
The Eco only gets good mileage when not in boost, under load its operating as a 7liter (effective displacement {3.5l @ ~15psi max = 7l}). To keep the Eco out of boost with the larger tires, increased front profile, extra weight, etc.. you have to increase its mechanical advantage (towing, hills, hard acceleration).
Obviously there is a point of diminishing returns, at some point you can have too low a ratio and you'll be decreasing mileage because RPMs will be too high.
If it were me, I'd figure out which Eco variant (gearing wise with whatever truck configuration you have) gets the best mpg, then I would do the math to figure out what ratio I would need to achieve an equivalent final ratio given the larger tires - I bet you get your most if not all your MPGs back.
Ex: factory ECO SCREW 4x4 3.73:1 on 265's gets XXmpg
Lifted ECO SCREW 4x4 x.xx:1 on 35's needs (4.56 / 4.88 / whatever) to have the final ratio equivalent as the final ratio for the 3.73:1 on 265's.
The Eco only gets good mileage when not in boost, under load its operating as a 7liter (effective displacement {3.5l @ ~15psi max = 7l}). To keep the Eco out of boost with the larger tires, increased front profile, extra weight, etc.. you have to increase its mechanical advantage (towing, hills, hard acceleration).
Obviously there is a point of diminishing returns, at some point you can have too low a ratio and you'll be decreasing mileage because RPMs will be too high.
If it were me, I'd figure out which Eco variant (gearing wise with whatever truck configuration you have) gets the best mpg, then I would do the math to figure out what ratio I would need to achieve an equivalent final ratio given the larger tires - I bet you get your most if not all your MPGs back.
Ex: factory ECO SCREW 4x4 3.73:1 on 265's gets XXmpg
Lifted ECO SCREW 4x4 x.xx:1 on 35's needs (4.56 / 4.88 / whatever) to have the final ratio equivalent as the final ratio for the 3.73:1 on 265's.
With 3.15s, it's only 6% or so taller than stock(3.73 x 32.2" tires), and the 'required' ring and pinion to return it to the stock F.D. would be under 4.0. Not many options between 3.73 and 4.0, plus it's not a very big gap. We're talking under 500rpm here.
In any event, me personally, I'll just pitch it in a couple years and prolly go back to diesels.
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#20
Senior Member
4.56's et al. would be WAY overkill.
With 3.15s, it's only 6% or so taller than stock(3.73 x 32.2" tires), and the 'required' ring and pinion to return it to the stock F.D. would be under 4.0. Not many options between 3.73 and 4.0, plus it's not a very big gap. We're talking under 500rpm here.
In any event, me personally, I'll just pitch it in a couple years and prolly go back to diesels.
Back to the original topic>
With 3.15s, it's only 6% or so taller than stock(3.73 x 32.2" tires), and the 'required' ring and pinion to return it to the stock F.D. would be under 4.0. Not many options between 3.73 and 4.0, plus it's not a very big gap. We're talking under 500rpm here.
In any event, me personally, I'll just pitch it in a couple years and prolly go back to diesels.
Back to the original topic>
As I posted earlier, the Eco Raptor gets a solid 16mpg avg on 37's - it has a tune obviously but it is also geared appropriately for the tires and added weight.
http://youtu.be/wYWE11Oo5rg
OT:
I just swapped to a more aggressive tread and I dropped from 12.6 to 11.5 combined avg.
Last edited by WarSurfer; 02-03-2013 at 03:57 PM.